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  • #16
    Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
    This remains quite late for the topic of the thread.
    Acknowledged. I was simply trying to clarify a point Siam made.

    The only significant connection is the fact that monastic traditions are a part of many ancient cultures
    Which means it's not really a connection at all, just a similarity, like pyramids in Mesoamerica and Egypt. (An extreme example).

    God bless you Shuny. :)
    Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith? -Galatians 3:5

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    • #17
      Originally posted by disciple100 View Post
      A while back I had been looking at a website called ebible.com. On that website was a question, Did Jesus ever travel to India?

      https://ebible.com/questions/2901-di...ravel-to-india

      Anyway, farther down one person shared information from a PDF talking about work done by a man named Dr. Alexander Harris. I had shared it elsewhere, naturally it was scoffed by some rather vitriolic atheists, but, basically, the premise is that Christianity was introduced to India before Sanskrit was actually written, thus, why The Mahābhārata sounds very Christian. I was interested in what other people thought. Here is the link:

      http://appiusforum.net/sanskrit.pdf
      No, the Mahabhrata is not Christia but a common wisdom literature in Hinduism. That said I've read it and its useful in reinforcing the idea of universally good morals. It also causes one to realize that perhaps we are too isolated in thinking that only certain people understooda God when in fact others perhaps have had partial understandings. However it is no more Christian than the text I'm currently critically reading written by a pagan practioner on meditation, holistic healing, and thoughtful prayer. smart? yes. Useful? Most of it as enhancing pain relief. Orthodox Christian? Nope Just meant for the everyday lay person seeking a holistic outlet
      Last edited by Catholicity; 01-20-2015, 07:04 PM.
      A happy family is but an earlier heaven.
      George Bernard Shaw

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Catholicity View Post
        No, the Mahabhrata is not Christia but a common wisdom literature in Hinduism. That said I've read it and its useful in reinforcing the idea of universally good morals. It also causes one to realize that perhaps we are too isolated in thinking that only certain people understood God when in fact others perhaps have had partial understandings. However it is no more Christian than the text I'm currently critically reading written by a pagan practioner on meditation, holistic healing, and thoughtful prayer. smart? yes. Useful? Most of it as enhancing pain relief. Orthodox Christian? Nope Just meant for the everyday lay person seeking a holistic outlet
        My view is everyone and all beliefs have a partial understanding of God.
        Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
        Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
        But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

        go with the flow the river knows . . .

        Frank

        I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
          My view is everyone and all beliefs have a partial understanding of God.
          What about nihilists?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Adrift View Post
            What about nihilists?
            Knowledge of the nature of our physical existence is knowledge of God's Creation. Knowledge of things does not necessarily reflect what we are willing to believe or not believe.
            Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
            Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
            But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

            go with the flow the river knows . . .

            Frank

            I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
              Knowledge of the nature of our physical existence is knowledge of God's Creation. Knowledge of things does not necessarily reflect what we are willing to believe or not believe.
              What about nihilists?

              Source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nihilism

              Nihilism - an extreme form of skepticism: the denial of all real existence or the possibility of an objective basis for truth.

              © Copyright Original Source

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Adrift View Post
                What about nihilists?

                Source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nihilism

                Nihilism - an extreme form of skepticism: the denial of all real existence or the possibility of an objective basis for truth.

                © Copyright Original Source

                Yes, this is true, but again, what one choses to believe does not necessarily reflect what they have knowledge of.

                Knowledge of the nature of our physical existence is knowledge of God's Creation. Knowledge of things does not necessarily reflect what we are willing to believe or not believe.
                Last edited by shunyadragon; 01-21-2015, 04:06 PM.
                Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                go with the flow the river knows . . .

                Frank

                I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                  Yes, this is true, but again, what one choses to believe does not necessarily reflect what they have knowledge of.

                  Knowledge of the nature of our physical existence is knowledge of God's Creation. Knowledge of things does not necessarily reflect what we are willing to believe or not believe.
                  So what you're saying is that the nihilist who believes that knowledge does not exist or that it is a fantasy really does know something even if they deny that they do.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Adrift View Post
                    So what you're saying is that the nihilist who believes that knowledge does not exist or that it is a fantasy really does know something even if they deny that they do.
                    The Nihilist does not believe knowledge does not exist. He may believe nothing in reality exists or some version that anything beyond the physical existence does not exist, but that is the belief of the Nihilist, and not the knowledge of the Nihilist.

                    Quote is as is, read it simply.
                    Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                    Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                    But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                    go with the flow the river knows . . .

                    Frank

                    I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                      The Nihilist does not believe knowledge does not exist. He may believe nothing in reality exists or some version that anything beyond the physical existence does not exist, but that is the belief of the Nihilist, and not the knowledge of the Nihilist.

                      Quote is as is, read it simply.
                      So you disagree with the Wikipedia article when it says,

                      Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism

                      Nihilism can also take epistemological or ontological/metaphysical forms, meaning respectively that, in some aspect, knowledge is not possible, or that reality does not actually exist.

                      © Copyright Original Source



                      And

                      Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism

                      Nihilism of an epistemological form can be seen as an extreme form of skepticism in which all knowledge is denied.[8]

                      © Copyright Original Source

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Adrift View Post
                        So you disagree with the Wikipedia article when it says,

                        Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism

                        Nihilism can also take epistemological or ontological/metaphysical forms, meaning respectively that, in some aspect, knowledge is not possible, or that reality does not actually exist.

                        © Copyright Original Source



                        And

                        Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism

                        Nihilism of an epistemological form can be seen as an extreme form of skepticism in which all knowledge is denied.[8]

                        © Copyright Original Source

                        No, I do not disagree with this at all. Again . . .

                        The Nihilist does not believe knowledge does not exist. He may believe nothing in reality exists or some version that anything beyond the physical existence does not exist, but that is the belief of the Nihilist, and not the knowledge of the Nihilist.

                        You are citing the belief about knowledge, not the knowledge that the Nihilist has in his brain, about the world around them. Like forms of Hinduism that deny knowledge and the existence is real, but that does not deny their ability to personally have knowledge about the world around them, they communicate with this illusion around them, and that they believe in reality it is an illusion or not real.

                        Quote is as is, read it simply.
                        Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                        Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                        But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                        go with the flow the river knows . . .

                        Frank

                        I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                          No, I do not disagree with this at all. Again . . .

                          The Nihilist does not believe knowledge does not exist. He may believe nothing in reality exists or some version that anything beyond the physical existence does not exist, but that is the belief of the Nihilist, and not the knowledge of the Nihilist.

                          You are citing the belief about knowledge, not the knowledge that the Nihilist has in his brain, about the world around them. Like forms of Hinduism that deny knowledge and the existence is real, but that does not deny their ability to personally have knowledge about the world around them, they communicate with this illusion around them, and that they believe in reality it is an illusion or not real.

                          Quote is as is, read it simply.
                          So then my post #23 was correct after all, right?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Adrift View Post
                            So then my post #23 was correct after all, right?
                            That is what he seems to be saying.
                            Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith? -Galatians 3:5

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Pentecost View Post
                              That is what he seems to be saying.
                              Guess it was just too hard for him to come out with it.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Adrift View Post
                                So then my post #23 was correct after all, right?
                                NO
                                Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                                Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                                But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                                go with the flow the river knows . . .

                                Frank

                                I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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