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Here is short proof the Shroud of Turin is a fake.

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  • Here is short proof the Shroud of Turin is a fake.

    Here is short proof the Shroud of Turin is a fake.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9ho-T3SQuw
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    The authenticity of the shroud of Turin has pretty much always been in severely doubt. The suspect history,antitomical image distortion, presence of paint, and recent dating has been the accumulated evidence against the shroud.
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    • #3
      For those of us who don't do video, what's the upshot?

      Incidentally, 'short video' makes one wonder what was left out. But whatever, what is the argument?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
        For those of us who don't do video, what's the upshot?

        Incidentally, 'short video' makes one wonder what was left out. But whatever, what is the argument?
        I actually ignored the video. I went by the history of the evidence.
        Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
        Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
        But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

        go with the flow the river knows . . .

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        • #5
          Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
          I actually ignored the video. I went by the history of the evidence.
          Yeah, I thought as much. Still waiting for Bible's answer, though.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
            Yeah, I thought as much. Still waiting for Bible's answer, though.
            The video creator thinks there's not enough room between the front and back images, mostly because he's confusing a water spot that lies between them with the back of the head.

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            • #7
              Ah... Thanks.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                Ah... Thanks.
                he uses a barbie doll to prove the shroud is fake.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  he uses a barbie doll to prove he's an idiot.
                  Fixed it for ya...

                  What a waste of pixels...

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                  • #10
                    It's proved a fake from the scripture record. Don't need nobody with a barbie doll or anything else to tell me that it isn't the shroud of Christ.

                    It might be somebody's, but it isn't His.


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                    • #11
                      Scripture records the existence of burial cloths.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                        Scripture records the existence of burial cloths.
                        I think she's talking about the description of the burial, or perhaps the patterns on the cloth itself.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                          It's proved a fake from the scripture record. Don't need nobody with a barbie doll or anything else to tell me that it isn't the shroud of Christ.

                          It might be somebody's, but it isn't His.
                          I tend to agree. It just does not match up with what read in John and the other Gospels or what was known about Jewish burial customs of the time.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View Post
                            I think she's talking about the description of the burial, or perhaps the patterns on the cloth itself.
                            I know what she was talking about - but Scripture doesn't preclude a burial shroud (and it isn't inconsistent with 1st Cent. burial).

                            This will now devolve into a debate of what the word 'is' means...

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                            • #15
                              John 20:7 NASB

                              and the face-cloth which had been on His head, not lying with the linen wrappings, but rolled up in a place by itself.

                              John 19:39-40 NASB

                              39 Nicodemus, who had first come to Him by night, also came, bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about a hundred pounds weight. 40 So they took the body of Jesus and bound it in linen wrappings with the spices, as is the burial custom of the Jews.
                              The myrrh and aloes were sticky and were used to adhere the strips of linen to themselves and to the body.

                              Which would have made the resurrection even more astounding, since the wrappings would have been all stuck together and couldn't have been removed without unwrapping them.

                              And the face cloth is a problem. The shroud wouldn't have needed a face cloth.


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