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Asteroid strike offers a feasible explanation for Biblical story of Sodom

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  • #61
    Originally posted by Juvenal View Post

    (Your second ref is to the same strike as the o/p, 3700 yrs ago, not 3700 BCE.)
    You are corrrrr... You're coooorr... Corrrr... You are not wrong about the dating. And the article states that more than once.




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    • #62
      Originally posted by mossrose View Post

      Then why in the world did you specify Sodom in the title of this thread?


      Because that was the word used in the article whose title I adapted for the thread.
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      The things that you're liable
      To read in the Bible
      It ain't necessarily so
      ."

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

        Because that was the word used in the article whose title I adapted for the thread.
        You said in this post

        https://theologyweb.com/campus/forum...00#post1307200

        he archaeologist who wrote the article is not "my guy" and secondly the survey confirms an asteroid strike on an ancient city. There is no sign telling us "Here Lie the Ruins of Sodom"
        That says that YOU said that the article said, "an ancient city". You are being obtuse. And here we go again with ducking and dodging on your part.

        If it was an unnamed ancient city then that should have been the title of the thread. Not your editorializing on what city it might have been.


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        • #64
          https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-97778-3

          Near as I can tell, the detail puts it in the right location for Sodom or Gomorrah (not much to go on really, just that they were not far from the dead sea).
          A second city would need to be found that had suffered a similar (or near similar) fate in the same time frame to clinch it. That, or perhaps a sign saying "Welcome to Sodom" or some-such.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by tabibito View Post

            Given that data - I'll have to accept that the Bible chronology is possibly more accurate than I had believed - which also would indicate the a lot of other things might be more accurate than I had thought, too.
            I have always thought that anything before Moses was questionable.
            There's good reason, in my opinion, to consider the Egyptian- and Mesopotamian-derived histories separately. I find the Egyptian-derived histories more suspect, starting with the lack of a name for the Mosaic pharoah, and the lack of an actual name for Moses, from my point of view. Where Ra-meses is the "son of Ra," Moses is simply the "son of" ... an unnamed God, in my reading.

            In contrast, the Mesopotamian-derived histories use names with cognates we can follow back to their origins thousands of years earlier. More evidence in line with my working theory, that the Israelite exit from Egypt was actually an Egyptian exit from the lands of Israel, part of the general Mediterranean collapse of the 13th century BCE. The flood story is Mesopotamian. Tammuz, for whom the ancient Israelites wept, derives from the Akkadian Tammuzi, which comes from Dumuzid, the fifth antediluvian king in the ancient Sumerian King List.

            The Mesopotamian-derived histories are far more robust, with a continuity that goes back more than a thousand years earlier than the Egyptian-derived histories.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Juvenal View Post

              ... Ur II ..
              ^ Ur III ... I'm going to blame autocorrect, and Mossy.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by tabibito View Post
                https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-97778-3

                Near as I can tell, the detail puts it in the right location for Sodom or Gomorrah (not much to go on really, just that they were not far from the dead sea).
                A second city would need to be found that had suffered a similar (or near similar) fate in the same time frame to clinch it. That, or perhaps a sign saying "Welcome to Sodom" or some-such.
                I really haven't studied this closely enough, but as above, I'm fairly sure the references I've seen always place a reputed Sodom on the other side of the Dead Sea, to the southwest. TeH is to the northeast.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Juvenal View Post

                  ^ Ur III ... I'm going to blame autocorrect, and Mossy.
                  Um. You mean Jaltus. Right?



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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Juvenal View Post

                    ^ Ur III ... I'm going to blame autocorrect, and Mossy.
                    The mathemagician has yet another problem with numbers



                    Of course nothing of the same magnitude as the last.




                    Since maths is of tha debil, I expected more of a backlash when you messed up your incantation there. You know. Like what happens when one of ya'll try to divide by zero



                    I mean SOMETHING shoulda happened. Irrational numbers suddenly became rational. Imaginary numbers became real. Something.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Juvenal View Post

                      I really haven't studied this closely enough, but as above, I'm fairly sure the references I've seen always place a reputed Sodom on the other side of the Dead Sea, to the southwest. TeH is to the northeast.
                      Opposed schools of thought. The map below shows the proposed locations
                      https://smyrnaean.blogspot.com/2014/...thern-and.html

                      5 Cities.jpg

                      Further information at https://www.defendingthechristianfai...chaeology.html (the map at least is interesting)
                      Last edited by tabibito; 09-23-2021, 07:55 PM.
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                      of the right to call yourself Christian.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by mossrose View Post

                        Um. You mean Jaltus. Right?

                        We are all Jaltus.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Juvenal View Post

                          We are all Jaltus.


                          That's not what I heard!


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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            The mathemagician has yet another problem with numbers
                            This one was an actual typo. Didn't notice until it was quoted.

                            Of course nothing of the same magnitude as the last.
                            Sometimes, you have to rest on your laurels.

                            Since maths is of tha debil, I expected more of a backlash when you messed up your incantation there. You know. Like what happens when one of ya'll try to divide by zero
                            Ya mean, like this?

                            dy/dx = lim (∆x->0) ∆y/∆x

                            I mean SOMETHING shoulda happened. Irrational numbers suddenly became rational ...
                            (√2)^2

                            ... Imaginary numbers became real. Something.
                            i^2

                            Come on, ask me a hard one, like how to make a transcendental number rational.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by tabibito View Post

                              Opposed schools of thought. The map below shows the proposed locations
                              https://smyrnaean.blogspot.com/2014/...thern-and.html

                              Further information at https://www.defendingthechristianfai...chaeology.html (the map at least is interesting)
                              Both of these explicitly reference the TeH site, based on earlier papers on the digs, making their opposing school little more than the observations I'm making myself. If the biblical tale is based on the TeH asteroid strike, then the cities of the plane must be clustered around TeH.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Juvenal View Post

                                Both of these explicitly reference the TeH site, based on earlier papers on the digs, making their opposing school little more than the observations I'm making myself. If the biblical tale is based on the TeH asteroid strike, then the cities of the plane must be clustered around TeH.
                                The map that I posted shows both northern (black dots) and southern (blue diamonds) postulated locations for Sodom and Gomorrah on the eastern side of the Dead Sea, but I haven't found anything that shows them on the west.
                                1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
                                .
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                                Scripture before Tradition:
                                but that won't prevent others from
                                taking it upon themselves to deprive you
                                of the right to call yourself Christian.

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