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Jesus' childhood home discovered?
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"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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It's interesting, but has the potential to become a "holy relics," Shroud of Turin kind of thing. I have really mixed views on those.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
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Neat! Some interesting evidence, indeed...
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostInteresting but not overly compelling.
Of course the other possibility is that Dark was having a laugh, given the season that is fast approaching."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
A little too convenient I suspect. The well built and attested first century dwelling has a tradition of being the home of Jesus [to wit the much later 4th century church] but that is as far as Dr Dark can really take his theory. Everything else he is proffering is pure speculation. It is like the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem which is allegedly supposed to be the site of the crucifixion and burial, based again on much later [4th century allegations]. A veritable industry developed from the fourth century producing relics of Jesus, the Holy Family and various saints.
Of course the other possibility is that Dark was having a laugh, given the season that is fast approaching.
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"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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Unless somebody were to come across a title deed for the property with Joseph's name on it, I see absolutely no reason to believe it. It's like the Galilee fishing boat that people claim was the one Jesus taught in. And how many empty tombs have people claimed were the one Jesus was buried in?When I Survey....
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIt appears that if anything Dark may have let his enthusiasm get away from him rather than he was having a lark."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Faber View PostUnless somebody were to come across a title deed for the property with Joseph's name on it, I see absolutely no reason to believe it. It's like the Galilee fishing boat that people claim was the one Jesus taught in. And how many empty tombs have people claimed were the one Jesus was buried in?
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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For anyone who is interested I recommend Charles Freeman's Holy Bones, Holy Dust: How Relics Shaped the History of Medieval Europe; and Joe Nickell's The Jesus Relics: From the Holy Grail to the Turin Shroud."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Another piece on Dark's claim of having located Jesus' childhood home -- in Popular Mechanics of all places, which allows you to vote on it. Currently it is 51% for "Sure why not? He was a real guy, after all" and 49% "I doubt it."
So it appears that Dark has written a book about it.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostAnother piece on Dark's claim of having located Jesus' childhood home -- in Popular Mechanics of all places, which allows you to vote on it. Currently it is 51% for "Sure why not? He was a real guy, after all" and 49% "I doubt it."
So it appears that Dark has written a book about it.
Furthermore we do not have a shred of contemporary evidence [i.e. anything that predates Josephus' comments at the end of the first century CE ] for Jesus of Nazareth despite the article's later contention that "But the historical reality, from dozens or even hundreds of pieces of corroborating evidence from all walks of life at the time, is that he was, at the very least, a real guy". What is this "corroborating evidence" and what specific "walks of life " does it come from?What does Ms Delbert actually mean by "at the time" ? Again, she does not inform us.
As for Dark's latest book, the hard copy of which is retailing at three figures, a not uncommon price range for for such scholarly tomes. It is hardly surprising that a serious academic has decided to publish after so many years of work."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
An odd site to feature an article on archaeology, although, as its name suggests it offers popular information on various serious topics. Its comments on this topic are very "populist", to wit, "The big breakthrough he describes in his new book is discovering evidence of a stone house that most likely belonged to Jesus’s family. (The odds are fairly good.)" . What "odds" might these be and why does Ms Delbert think they are "fairly good"? She does not inform us
Furthermore we do not have a shred of contemporary evidence [i.e. anything that predates Josephus' comments at the end of the first century CE ] for Jesus of Nazareth despite the article's later contention that "But the historical reality, from dozens or even hundreds of pieces of corroborating evidence from all walks of life at the time, is that he was, at the very least, a real guy". What is this "corroborating evidence" and what specific "walks of life " does it come from?What does Ms Delbert actually mean by "at the time" ? Again, she does not inform us.
As for Dark's latest book, the hard copy of which is retailing at three figures, a not uncommon price range for for such scholarly tomes. It is hardly surprising that a serious academic has decided to publish after so many years of work.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostAre you saying that you are a Jesus Myther?
Given the prevailing situation within the region and the Messianic sects we know arose from the late first century BCE, I consider it very likely that a man, or possibly various men, upon whom the different characters of Jesus we are presented with in the Synoptic gospels, existed. How realistically those gospel characters reflect any real man/men is, of course, another matter.
However, I also recognise the fact that we lack any contemporary extraneous evidence for a figure we now know as Jesus of Nazareth.
Therefore, while I strongly lean to the view that a real man [or men] lie behind the gospel accounts, I have to accept the possibility that no such individual ever actually existed."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
No, but what I stated is fact.
Given the prevailing situation within the region and the Messianic sects we know arose from the late first century BCE, I consider it very likely that a man, or possibly various men, upon whom the different characters of Jesus we are presented with in the Synoptic gospels, existed. How realistically those gospel characters reflect any real man/men is, of course, another matter.
However, I also recognise the fact that we lack any contemporary extraneous evidence for a figure we now know as Jesus of Nazareth.
Therefore, while I strongly lean to the view that a real man [or men] lie behind the gospel accounts, I have to accept the possibility that no such individual ever actually existed.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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