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Due to the rash of recent "hostile" threads, the Cosmogony forum guidelines have been updated in an effort to 1) Clarify the purpose of this forum and 2) to prevent a repeat of the recent unpleasantries.

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*Theistic evolution is a position somewhere between evolution and creationism. It says that God created the substance of our universe and the guided it into what we have today via the evolutionary process.
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  • #16
    Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
    I figured that Jesus teleported or something. Now, why the two on the road to Emmaus didn't recognize Jesus... well they sure weren't expecting to see Him! I am curious as to how the glorified body would look like on a cellular level. I guess the cells would be indestructible and immortal? I might be a nerd.
    IMO, the post-Resurrection Appearances show space relating to Jesus in a new way - *not* Jesus relating to space - as anticipations of the Ascension.

    Would the Glorified Body of Christ be cellular at all ? I think not. I think such things belong to the “state of humiliation” in this world, a state “normal” to all men, in which the Word Incarnate deigned to share.

    I think cells are a temporary makeshift, that will form no part of the glorified bodies of the Blessed after the Resurrection. Cells, and electrons (& other sub-atomic particles), are what our (corruptible) bodies are made of - not what those bodies are. When the Blessed “put on incorruption” & “death is swallowed up in victory”, their mortal bodies will be transfigured, for Christ will be fully formed in all the Blessed, and all things will be made new. I think cells, etc., belong to this age - not to that which is coming.

    STM the Glorified Body of Christ is too “heavy”, has too much *kabodh*/*doxa*/glory, to fit the world man lives in; it is “too Real”. The disciples were, and we are, ghosts by comparison. I know C. S. makes frequent use of this idea, but IMHO he was “on to something”. Perhaps talk of Christ “Ascending” uses this-worldly, this-agely, human - but God-breathed - “ghost talk” to convey what human words have no means of describing, because the Ascension belongs in essence to God’s Reality, not to the “sub-created” reality we live in.
    And perhaps the same applies to the Resurrection Body of Christ, as compared with the lowly bodies of mortal men.

    I think cells are what bodies have, that have yet to be perfectly conformed to the Glorified, Renewed, Sacred Humanity of the Resurrected and Ascended Christ. Which would suggest that extra-ordinary graces such as: bilocation, knowledge of men’s hearts, multiplication of food, raising the dead, walking on water, etc., are anticipations, in this mortal, unglorified body, of the conditions of the age to come.
    Last edited by Rushing Jaws; 05-08-2020, 05:46 AM.


    • #17
      Uhh... that sounds like claiming matter is bad. It isn't. Have you read Randy Alcorn's book called Heaven?
      If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!


      • #18
        Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
        Uhh... that sounds like claiming matter is bad. It isn't. Have you read Randy Alcorn's book called Heaven?
        I’ve heard of the author, but not of the book.

        How does anything I said imply that matter is bad ? 😎🤔😵🤯😩😤


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