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DNA results are in: Early humans and Neanderthals made babies together

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  • #16
    Originally posted by hansgeorg View Post
    In other words:

    * Noah and his wife cannot very well have been Neanderthal or Denisovan race,
    * at same time, one daughter in law must have had some such background
    * but since other studies show that Neanderthal mitocondrial and Y-chromosome are "not modern human" ...

    I suppose Neanderthals were a pre-Flood race, and a Neanderthal woman had a son with a non-Neanderthal man (no Neanderthal Y chromosome), then the son had a daughter with a non-Neanderthal woman (no Neanderthal mitocondrial DNA) who married one of Noah's sons.

    I suppose remains of Neanderthals in stone age like surroundings, if from pre-Flood, were either a kind of camp prisoners or a kind of Amish, having to do largely in ways which proved useful later just after Flood, during "Late Palaeolithic" to "Neolithic".
    First, biggy problem, there is no evidence for any such flood. Your artificial time line to make things fit an ancient mythical Genesis, either unbelievable naive, or more likely, down right intellectually and deliberately dishonest.
    Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
    Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
    But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

    go with the flow the river knows . . .

    Frank

    I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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    • #17
      False since Science is studying the evolution of the sons of God (prehistoric people) INSTEAD of Humans, who are the descendants of Adam, the common ancestor of ALL Humans

      Today's Evols are totally ignorant that Human blood was contaminated by the blood of the common ancestor of Apes because Noah's grandsons had NO other humans to marry. They married the descendants of the sons of God (Prehistoric people) who were ALREADY here when Noah arrived. In the past, some 10-12k years ago, Humans have been scattered over the whole face of our Planet. Gen 11:9

      Humans were formed of the dust on the 3rd Day, the SAME Day as the Big Bang of our Cosmos, or some 13.7 Billion years ago. Adam was made with a higher intelligence level than ANY creature whose origin was in the water on the 5th Day, because Adam had an intelligence like God's. Gen 3:22

      IT is IMPOSSIBLE for Adam, the first Human, to have evolved from the common ancestor of Apes since our Earth is only 4.53 Billion years old, and Adam had been around for Billions of years before then, as our Lord' meet.

      Adam's direct descendant, Noah, arrived on our Earth, some 10k years ago and Human civilization, on this Planet, can be traced to him. History agrees and odd man out is the False ToE which is "willingly ignorant" 2Pe 3:5 of our true Human origins. You can read of the sexual compatibilty of the sons of God (prehistoric people) and Adam's descendants in Genesis 6:1-4.


      God Bless

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Seve View Post
        False since Science is studying the evolution of the sons of God (prehistoric people) INSTEAD of Humans, who are the descendants of Adam, the common ancestor of ALL Humans

        Today's Evols are totally ignorant that Human blood was contaminated by the blood of the common ancestor of Apes because Noah's grandsons had NO other humans to marry. They married the descendants of the sons of God (Prehistoric people) who were ALREADY here when Noah arrived. In the past, some 10-12k years ago, Humans have been scattered over the whole face of our Planet. Gen 11:9

        Humans were formed of the dust on the 3rd Day, the SAME Day as the Big Bang of our Cosmos, or some 13.7 Billion years ago. Adam was made with a higher intelligence level than ANY creature whose origin was in the water on the 5th Day, because Adam had an intelligence like God's. Gen 3:22

        IT is IMPOSSIBLE for Adam, the first Human, to have evolved from the common ancestor of Apes since our Earth is only 4.53 Billion years old, and Adam had been around for Billions of years before then, as our Lord' meet.

        Adam's direct descendant, Noah, arrived on our Earth, some 10k years ago and Human civilization, on this Planet, can be traced to him. History agrees and odd man out is the False ToE which is "willingly ignorant" 2Pe 3:5 of our true Human origins. You can read of the sexual compatibilty of the sons of God (prehistoric people) and Adam's descendants in Genesis 6:1-4.


        God Bless
        Last edited by rogue06; 12-14-2016, 12:09 AM.

        I'm always still in trouble again

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        • #19
          This is clear when you ask Evols to explain WHERE the first Human came from, since the only way in which Humans can pass the invisible intelligence of Adam, to another Human, is through the birthing process. Evols run, hide, call names, imply that anyone who asks this question is nuts, and claim there was no first Human and that magical evolution did it.

          NONE of them can produce ANY evidence of this event since Science is currently IGNORANT of the difference between Human and animal intelligence Today. They would have us believe that Apes evolved into Humans and that it happened 200k years ago.

          Evols also falsely CLAIM that long periods of time and numerous positive mutations produced Human intelligence in animals. No Evol refutes them because God has caught ALL of them in His Snare, which He set with the Flood. The Trap they are caught in is that they have been Falsely teaching Evolution for more than 50 years, that Humans evolved from animals, BECAUSE they have Rejected God's Truth of the Flood. Soon, they must DEFEND this Satanic Lie and the only defense they have is to be "willingly ignorant" of God's Truth. Here is God's Truth, which tells of this debate, with the Scoffers in the last days.

          2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
          2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: (Greek-destroyed totally)

          Here is the origin of the sons of God (prehistoric people) who were created and brought forth from the water on the 5th Day, as commanded by God some 3.77 Billion years ago, in man's time. Science AGREES that our cells cannot survive without liquid water and that’s why we seek liquid water on other planets to see if they have the possibility of life or not. We find the bones of prehistoric people all the way back to the time when they diverged from Chimps some 6 Million years ago.

          Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after Their kind, and every winged fowl after His kind: and God saw that it was good.

          Adam's direct descendant, Noah, arrived on our Earth, some 10k years ago and Human civilization, on this Planet, can be traced to him. History agrees and odd man out is the False ToE which is "willingly ignorant" 2Pe 3:5 of our true Human origins. You can read of the sexual compatibilty of the sons of God (prehistoric people) and Adam's descendants in Genesis 6:1-4.

          Prehistoric people were just like today's Humans and they moved and had their origin in water EXACTLY as Scripture and Science tell us. Science calls this appearance of life from water a "Natural" happening, but God shows that it was all a part of His Creation.

          What the posting shows is that this False Teaching of the ToE is NOT true, and supposes things which have No data to support their False Assumptions. That's because Humans are the descendants of Adam and Adam's superior intelligence MUST be inherited sexually and CANNOT happen by chance mutation and long periods of time as evolutionism falsely preaches.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
            First, biggy problem, there is no evidence for any such flood. Your artificial time line to make things fit an ancient mythical Genesis, either unbelievable naive, or more likely, down right intellectually and deliberately dishonest.
            You can argue that on this thread:

            http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...s-overwhelming!

            Meanwhile, I note you had no "second" about the genetic aspect.
            http://notontimsblogroundhere.blogspot.fr/p/apologetics-section.html

            Thanks, Sparko, for telling how I add the link here!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Seve View Post
              Today's Evols are totally ignorant that Human blood was contaminated by the blood of the common ancestor of Apes because Noah's grandsons had NO other humans to marry. They married the descendants of the sons of God (Prehistoric people) who were ALREADY here when Noah arrived. In the past, some 10-12k years ago, Humans have been scattered over the whole face of our Planet. Gen 11:9
              You seem to agree about what "carbon dated date" is Tower of Babel event.

              Göbekli Tepe, right?
              http://notontimsblogroundhere.blogspot.fr/p/apologetics-section.html

              Thanks, Sparko, for telling how I add the link here!

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              • #22
                Dear hansgeorg,

                Scientifically speaking, Adam was made BEFORE the First Stars, which were not made until the 4th Day.*Gen 1:16*Since the beginning of our Cosmos is dated at some 13.7 Billion years ago, in man's time and since Adam lived until some 15k years ago here on our present world…. Adam was more than 13 Billion years old. He lived with Jesus for most of that time in a perfect body like we all will have in Heaven after the Rapture.

                Only God, the Supreme Intelligence of Creation, the Creator who CANNOT Lie would get these things scientifically correct, even today.

                I like the FACT that Gen 2:4 shows that the Big Bang of our world was on the*3rd Day*and the FIRST Stars of our Cosmos did NOT put forth their Light until the 4th Day. Gen 1:16

                Science has recently learned that it took Hundreds of Millions of years*AFTER*the Big Bang*BEFORE the FIRST Stars put forth their Light.*It's PROOF that ONLY God could have written Genesis.

                God and true science discoveries are in agreement..... and the false ToE is the odd man out.

                Adam’s World:

                Adam’s firmament of heaven / world was located in the vicinity beneath the body of water in Lake Van, Turkey of our Hollow Earth. It was in a completely enclosed Biosphere, more like an incubator of Humanity (simile).

                Adam's world was FLAT and much, much, much smaller than our present world - It had only*4 Rivers,*which all ran out of the Garden of Eden .... compared to our present world, it has thousands of Rivers all over the face of our earth. Adam’s world was contained in the interior of our hollow earth, beneath the surface of Lake Van, Turkey, which is about 75 miles wide and 1500 feet deep.

                2Pe 3:5*6*For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth*standing out of the water and in the water:*v6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

                During the Flood, the Ark which was covered, floated out the top of Adam's firmament into the largest Lake in the area (Lake Van), as the firmament sank and released the Ark into our world , thus, Adam’s world was totally destroyed / dissolved in the Global Flood. If it sounds like Atlantis, so be it.

                This explains a way for a 450 foot Ark to be above the highest mountains of Adam's world (22 1/2 ft) ref. Gen 7:20 ...AND....within the area of the mountains of Ararat on the*SAME*150th*day after the flood began (Gen 8:4).

                The Truth behind The Story of the Tower of Babel:

                When the rains came to the world of Adam, the firmament, which protected the first world from the water that surrounded it (standing out of the water and in the water), started to brake down and began to sink. The Ark, which was already upon the waters began to rise as the firmament sank. This released the Ark into*ANOTHER*world, the present world of ours, right now.

                Noah's descendants thought they could build a tower to Heaven and escape the present Earth, like Noah had escaped from the first Earth. They didn't want to be scattered over the face of the whole Earth, into the lands of the Savages (prehistoric people), so they tried to escape our world, but the LORD had other plans.*

                Thus, was Humanity scattered over the face of the present Earth and the prehistoric people changed from innocent animal to Human intelligence. This shows that Humans did*NOT*evolve from Apes on this planet, but from Noah's descendants.

                Strange Spiral under Lake Van, Turkey 7.2 EQ - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utJi4bTb4ck


                Our God is awesome God.
                Last edited by Seve; 12-23-2016, 08:17 PM.

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                • #23
                  You do realize that the sun is a star don't you?

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                    You do realize that the sun is a star don't you?
                    That's your problem with his theory?
                    ~Formerly known as Chrawnus~

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
                      That's your problem with his theory?
                      I kinda quit reading after that part.

                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        I kinda quit reading after that part.
                        You should have kept going, it's kind of a slow start, but it only keeps getting better.
                        ~Formerly known as Chrawnus~

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
                          That's your problem with his theory?
                          Theory or fantasy?
                          Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
                            Theory or fantasy?
                            Yes.
                            ~Formerly known as Chrawnus~

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                            • #29
                              The above DNA connection is shown in Gen 6:1-4. Today's Humans are a Combination of the descendants of Adam AND prehistoric people who did NOT descend from Adam, but were here when Noah arrived into our world some 10k years ago.

                              Genesis 6 King James Version (KJV)

                              6 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,*2 That the sons of God (prehistoric*mankind) saw the daughters of men (Adam) that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

                              Notice that the LORD isn't happy about this and cuts Human lifetimes by almost 90%.

                              4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God (prehistoric*man) came in unto the daughters of men, (Adam) and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown .*5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

                              The Combination of Humans and prehistoric mankind creates Violent mankind, so violent, our lives have been cut to about 10% of our first Human ancestors. It's also evidence of HOW we inherited the unique Human intelligence of Adam...AND...the DNA and ERVs of the common ancestor of ALL life on our Planet.

                              As you can see, the term and also after that is Prophecy that prehistoric people and Adam's descendants would produce intellectual giants again. This is important since intellectual giants were produced on Planet Earth when Noah's grandsons married and produced today's Humans with the prehistoric people who were already here when Noah arrived. It's HOW and WHEN (some 10k years ago) the prehistoric people on our Earth evolved their Human intelligence.*

                              The History of Human civilization, on Planet Earth, can be traced to the people who came out of the mountains of Ararat, into the valleys of Northern Mesopotamia (the Cradle of Human civilization) exactly as God tells us in Genesis.*Map: Fertile Crescent, 9000 to 4500 BCE.

                              Here's the problem which NO Evol can answer. HOW did ancient men, who lived thousands of years BEFORE Science, know how Human DNA was affected, so they wrote the above in Genesiis to let us know how much they knew. NOT, No, it's impossible for ANY man of the time to explain*HOW*Human blood was contaminated by the blood of prehistoric creatures who evolved from the common ancestor of Apes.*

                              It's PROOF of God, and our "so called" Science is still ignoring God's Truth in Genesis

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by hansgeorg View Post
                                You can argue that on this thread:

                                http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...s-overwhelming!

                                Meanwhile, I note you had no "second" about the genetic aspect.
                                I am not allowed to post in this section. I read your description of how limestone is supposedly formed and it is bizzaro and unbelievable based on the actual evidence of the nature of limestone deposits.
                                Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                                Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                                But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                                go with the flow the river knows . . .

                                Frank

                                I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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