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The first Clovis burial found of one year old infant.

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  • shunyadragon
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    Originally posted by robrecht View Post
    We stuck around until Cardinal Richelieu started chopping our heads off, then we escaped to Haiti. During the slave rebellion there, two children were smuggled into New Orleans in barrels without their parents. Eventually, my ancestors made their way to Kentucky. When I was living with the Capuchins in Paris to learn French, I announced the fact that I was descended from French nobility, and they were all aghast that an American would make such an obviously false claim. Kentucky, of all places! I assured them that they should not worry, that my relatives had done quite well in America, actually winning an award at a Kentucky state fair for raising hogs. One of them, a librarian at the Bibliothèque nationale de France, actually tried to prove that my particular line had actually died out. But there I was. I was very happy to let them know that we were still around and ready to serve France again as their leaders if ever the need should arise.
    were likely distant cousins of a sort. I will try ad look up his name.
    Last edited by shunyadragon; 03-02-2014, 05:52 PM.

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  • robrecht
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    Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
    You would have to back a few+ more generations. All I know is that when things got uncomfortable in France he ducked out and headed to Ireland.
    We stuck around until Cardinal Richelieu started chopping our heads off, then we escaped to Haiti. During the slave rebellion there, two children were smuggled into New Orleans in barrels without their parents. Eventually, my ancestors made their way to Kentucky. When I was living with the Capuchins in Paris to learn French, I announced the fact that I was descended from French nobility, and they were all aghast that an American would make such an obviously false claim. Kentucky, of all places! I assured them that they should not worry, that my relatives had done quite well in America, actually winning an award at a Kentucky state fair for raising hogs. One of them, a librarian at the Bibliothèque nationale de France, actually tried to prove that my particular line had actually died out. But there I was. I was very happy to let them know that we were still around and ready to serve France again as their leaders if ever the need should arise.

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  • shunyadragon
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    Originally posted by robrecht View Post
    How much do you know about him? I'll ask my grandparents what they recall.
    You would have to back a few+ more generations. All I know is that when things got uncomfortable in France he ducked out and headed to Ireland.

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  • Carrikature
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    Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
    I am not sure I understand how this suggests a single migration of people into the Americas, as opposed to a series of migrations by the same Asian ancestors.
    Ancestry. It's the same way we establish cladistics in evolution. Certain sequences and features exist across multiple groups. Those same features and sequences do not exist in other groups. Hence, the features and sequences arose after a split occurred. If they had arisen before, they would be present in both lineages barring a loss of such features later (which we can still track).

    A good example of this is the GULO gene which is responsible for making Vitamin C in mammals. Primates (including humans) share a broken GULO gene and cannot produce their own. Guinea pigs also have a broken gene, but it's broken in a different spot. The GULO gene shows up in all mammals, though, indicating it came first. It's only after populations split off that the gene was mutated/broken later. That's why primates all have the same broken gene and guinea pigs have a differently broken gene.

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  • robrecht
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    Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
    One of my ancestors was a member of the royal house of the Franks.

    Frank of the Franks
    How much do you know about him? I'll ask my grandparents what they recall.

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  • shunyadragon
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    Originally posted by robrecht View Post
    We're related!
    One of my ancestors was a member of the royal house of the Franks.

    Frank of the Franks

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  • robrecht
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    You could never be Frank. He's special. Has his own unique haecceitas.

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  • Outis
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    Originally posted by robrecht View Post
    We're related!
    So if I hit either of you with the phrase "May I be frank with you?" you'll get the pun.

    I should be ashamed of myself. Frankly.

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  • robrecht
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    Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
    My ancestor, the Merovingian will rule the world and I will be the Emperor. Frank of the Franks.
    We're related!

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  • shunyadragon
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    Originally posted by robrecht View Post
    When I first saw the thread title, I thought it was going to be about my ancestor Clovis, founder of the Merovivngian Dynasty!
    My ancestor, the Merovingian will rule the world and I will be the Emperor. Frank of the Franks.

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  • Outis
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    Originally posted by robrecht View Post
    When I first saw the thread title, I thought it was going to be about my ancestor Clovis, founder of the Merovivngian Dynasty!
    Wrong Clovis ... unless he had a hobby of making flint arrowheads.

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  • robrecht
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    When I first saw the thread title, I thought it was going to be about my ancestor Clovis, founder of the Merovivngian Dynasty!

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  • shunyadragon
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    Originally posted by Outis View Post
    This doesn't rule out later migrations from Asia or Europe, but does eliminate the possibility that the Clovis culture, specifically, had European ancestry.
    I have to check on this, but I believe the Asian origins are more Siberian then Eurasian genetically. They were not the first nor the only immigrants from Eurasian. About 80% of all Native Americans share Clovis DNA. but it is still mixed with other Eurasian immigrants.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...americans.html
    Last edited by shunyadragon; 02-28-2014, 12:18 PM.

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  • Outis
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    Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
    That European bit never had more than a fringe acceptance did it?
    It was a bone of contention for years, and if it was only a fringe contention, the fringe in this case was pretty darn loud.

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  • Jedidiah
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    Originally posted by Outis View Post
    This doesn't rule out later migrations from Asia or Europe, but does eliminate the possibility that the Clovis culture, specifically, had European ancestry.
    That European bit never had more than a fringe acceptance did it?

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