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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Our company's donation only covers $1200 of the deductible but that's still a help. Do they give you $5K each renewal period?
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostSorry for your health problems but your story does not speak well for the NHS. It might be free but people with potential heart problems waiting for hours at an emergency room doesn't seem very responsive.
At US emergency rooms at hospitals if you are brought in in an ambulance with a potential life threatening condition, like a potential heart attack, you are seen immediately. They will wheel you directly into an exam room. If it is determined you are not having a life threatening episode then you might be put into a queue to wait for a doctor to examine you more extensively.
And we have a lot of smaller "immediate care" centers for not life threatening conditions that need quick care, from feeling ill from a flu, to cutting yourself cooking, etc. There are so many of them that it is rare to not be able to get to see a doctor withing half an hour of visiting one.
Now I have had to wait at an emergency room at a hospital for several hours when I did a walk-in for having a bad episode of nausea/diarrhea.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Luckily in my city, most of the big hospitals are all clustered in one area. In a few city blocks there are like 5 hospitals. So none are ever so busy you can't get in to see a doctor pretty quickly.
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Originally posted by mossrose View Post
I’m glad you are ok!
You might not have paid anything out of pocket for your time and tests, but you paid all the same. So did everyone else in your country. That’s what socialized medicine is.
Canada has some of the highest taxes in the world, but our health care system has always been a mess. And covid made it worse. We lost thousands of medical personnel who disagreed with the mandates, fired or "laid off", and people are now dying in emergency rooms while they wait for treatment.
I waited last year for 4 months to see a gastroenterologist, and another 4 months to have a couple of procedures done. I have to call at least 3 weeks in advance to see my doctor at his clinic. If I need a doctor before that I have to go to the ER or a walk-in clinic. In either case I will sit for hours before I’m seen.
The TARGET wait time across Canada is 4 hours. Tales of waits of up to 20 hours is common.
My sister was told in May 2021 that she would be in hospital within 6 weeks for hip replacement surgery. It is no surprise, at least to everybody who lives here, that she is still waiting. My daughter needs to see a gastroenterologist but was told by her doctor that nobody in their quite large city is taking gastro patients right now.
My husband had a quadruple bypass 10 years ago. He didn’t have a heart attack, praise God, but he waited 2 months to see a cardiologist, another month to get in for an angiogram. The cardiologist told him after that procedure that if he went home he would die because it would be at least 3 months before he would be booked for the bypass. So they kept him in hospital for 10 days before they did the surgery, and another 5 days following. We paid not one cent out of pocket, but there is a trade off for "free" healthcare.
You could die waiting.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Here our companies usually foot most of the bill for healthcare (if you have a good job). My company pays most of it but I have to pay, i think, $87/month. It covers most hospital and prescription costs, but there is a deductible. I have to pay the first $2000, then the insurance pays 90% and I pay 10%, until I have paid in $3000 total. Then the insurance pays 100%. Dental is not covered or vision, those are separate insurance. Vision is $8/month and Dental is $27/month.
With my health problems and prescriptions I usually have the $2000 paid up in a few months after the year starts. So I just budget for that. Plus the company has a Health Savings account that I and they pay into. They pay $100 a month into it, and I put in some myself, so I pay the deductible out of that.
But I don't have to wait for any procedures or tests or surgeries.
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Originally posted by eider View Post
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Originally posted by eider View Post
What is the situastion with folks who have no medical insurance?
But most states have low-cost health insurance for people to buy if they don't have an employer who pays for their healthcare, or if you are destitute, disabled, or on welfare you can get on medicaid which is government paid for.
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Originally posted by eider View Post
That's not a bad deal........ We pay £200 a month in to an account for our pet's care, and last autumn we ;paid £4500 for an operation on one of them. Yesterday I suggested to my wife that we start a similar account for own own healthcare and she likes the idea.
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The nice thing about HSA (Health Savings Accounts) is that the money I put into it is before taxes so I don't pay taxes on it, And I am not taxed on it when I take money out. But it can only be used for medical expenses. The extra that I don't use each year, I have invested in stocks so it can grow. That way I hopefully will have a good nest egg there for when I retire.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostIf you don't have insurance you can pay out of pocket if you wish. If you can't pay the bill yourself, they have to still take you if it is an emergency or life-threatening illness.
But most states have low-cost health insurance for people to buy if they don't have an employer who pays for their healthcare, or if you are destitute, disabled, or on welfare you can get on medicaid which is government paid for.
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