How do you think?

[rogue06]

Found a test for hyperphantasia. My results say "You're probably hyperphantasic"

https://aphantasia.com/vviq/

"You're probably hyperphantasic"

The ones the scored the highest hits were about seeing natural stuff like lakes and trees until it asked about reflections in the lake.

[Sparko]

Same result. It was pretty simple to answer for me. I just had to take each slider all of the way to the right for each question.

It was a guess for me. I mean I don't see it exactly like reality since it is in my head and I still have visual input interfering with it, even with my eyes closed I still have the inside of my eyelids interfering with my mental image. I generally can imagine greater details by concentrating, but while I am awake, it comes in flashes. If I am asleep or drifting off I can see it like I am looking with my eyes. Plus I don't have photographic memory. If I were to try to imagine or remember my breakfast this morning, I know the bowl has a design on the outside of some flowers, but I can't "see" the exact pattern. I just see an impression of the bowl with the pattern on it. If I look at my room where I am sitting now, then close my eyes, I can see it but not every little detail. I can't recall everything on my monitor, or "read" the text on it for example.

So I kind of chose between the far right and the next two over depending on the question. I think I am not quite to the hyperaphantasia level. But let's say I wanted to draw something from memory like a tree or a house. I could come pretty close to a realistic rendering just from memory, with some of the details being off here and there.

[Sparko]

"You're probably hyperphantasic"

The ones the scored the highest hits were about seeing natural stuff like lakes and trees until it asked about reflections in the lake.

same here. I can imagine nature a lot easier than say, someone's stance or whatnot.

[rogue06]

When my brain is getting a bit overloaded I just grab my fidget spinner. It's weird how something so simple can help me calm my overactive mind.

Of course... smiley old.gifWhen I was your age...

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And then, of course, there are roguetech style fidgetity spinning things

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This is not a derail but an illustration of how I think

[Esther]

One of the voices in my head insists on narrating everything in the manner of a noir detective story from the 40s.

[Ronson]

Ever try memorizing telephone numbers by imagining geometric shapes on the telephone keypad?

Even typing is visualizing the location of each letter, number and symbol on a keyboard.

Maybe even driving a car, or playing a video game.

We probably do it more than we think. Or visualize.

Absolutely. I remember keypad patterns instead of numbers (when possible). In fact, my garage-door opener and my phone password were created with patterns in mind. My son-in-law does the same.

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[rogue06]

Absolutely. I remember keypad patterns instead of numbers (when possible). In fact, my garage-door opener and my phone password were created with patterns in mind. My son-in-law does the same.

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In making a PW for a key pad, particularly a five digit or more PW, use a number more than once.

It is also amazing how many of those that get used as door locks get left with the "factory settings."

[NorrinRadd]

interesting.

I found her site: https://www.grandin.com/inc/visual.thinking.html

I seem to think visually and verbally. I have always been good at drawing and can easily visualize/imagine images in my head. When doing math I tend to visualize what is being calculated more than anything else. I was always better at geometry than algebra, because with geometry I could visualize the shapes and "see" the answer, then use the formulas to zero in on the correct answer. Like adding 1/2 to 1/4, I would just "see" a pi chart with 3/4 of it filled in.

I'm "ok" at drawing, but find it very frustrating that I can't come close to putting on paper the images I "see" in my head.

I can't calculate totally in my head as well as I could when I was using math daily. Now, even for simple algebra, I have to at least "write" in the air with my finger.

My inner monologue insists that I pedantically suggest that you meant "pie" chart... unless the 3/4 was supposed to be 3.14.

[NorrinRadd]

I always assumed "internal monologue" was universal, and that it sounds to each person what their own "voice" sounds like to them when heard from "inside." Even at the age of 61, I'm still unpleasantly surprised any time I hear the way my voice "really" sounds, i.e. to others.

[NorrinRadd]

no.


I pretty much do that subconsciously using muscle memory. I touch type. I just think of what I want to type and my fingers just do it. every once in a while if I am using an unfamiliar keyboard my fingers are off by one key and the result is hilarious.





Driving a car is mostly subconscious too. I don't "think" about steering this way or that, or hitting the brakes, or gas. I just 'do it' - I want to stop and I just move my foot to the break and apply the right amount of pressure. Now when I was learning to drive I had to actively think about everything I was doing and then do it and it was pretty overwhelming at first, but then I think it just becomes instinctive like walking. You don't think "pick up left foot, move left leg, put down left foot. Pick up right foot..." You just do it.

I don't think that is even visualizing. I think driving and walking and playing video games gets translated from active thinking to subconscious "subroutines" that we just do with muscle memory.

I was surprised recently by a little Facebook contest that revealed how few people can touch-type.

The muscle-memory thing with driving has been a problem lately. I'd been driving the same car -- a Chevy Tracker -- for at least fifteen years. It crapped the bed several months ago -- bad speed sensor in the transmission -- so I had to replace it. The Chevy Cobalt I got has different dimensions and a different turning radius. I've found I have a hard time judging distances. I've already bumped the post of my carport twice when parking.

[Cow Poke]

I was surprised recently by a little Facebook contest that revealed how few people can touch-type.

The muscle-memory thing with driving has been a problem lately. I'd been driving the same car -- a Chevy Tracker -- for at least fifteen years. It crapped the bed several months ago -- bad speed sensor in the transmission -- so I had to replace it. The Chevy Cobalt I got has different dimensions and a different turning radius. I've found I have a hard time judging distances. I've already bumped the post of my carport twice when parking.

You outta try driving a towmotor (fork lift) for 8 hours a day, then get back in your car and try to back out of your parking spot!

[Ronson]

In making a PW for a key pad, particularly a five digit or more PW, use a number more than once.

It is also amazing how many of those that get used as door locks get left with the "factory settings."

My current ones don't repeat, but they have in the past. Has it been shown that passwords with repeating numbers/letters are more difficult to crack?

[rogue06]

My current ones don't repeat, but they have in the past. Has it been shown that passwords with repeating numbers/letters are more difficult to crack?

I don't know about any studies, I just remember what someone I worked with (who, when he was employed by Uncle Sam, was referred to as a barrier penetration specialist.

Of course that was 40 years ago.

[Stoic]

My current ones don't repeat, but they have in the past. Has it been shown that passwords with repeating numbers/letters are more difficult to crack?

The keypad gets worn over time, so someone can see which numbers are used in the password. If there are no repeated numbers, there are fewer combinations to guess.

Even before the keypad gets worn, someone can come along right after it has been used, and use an infrared scanner to see which keys have been pressed.

This is also important with phone passwords, since fingerprint smudges can give away which numbers are used.

[rogue06]

The keypad gets worn over time, so someone can see which numbers are used in the password. If there are no repeated numbers, there are fewer combinations to guess.

Even before the keypad gets worn, someone can come along right after it has been used, and use an infrared scanner to see which keys have been pressed.

This is also important with phone passwords, since fingerprint smudges can give away which numbers are used.

Don't need an infrascanner (which won't work if the person had really cold hands or is wearing gloves). Just some graphite dust (shave it off of pencils and crush until dust if none available). Place on paper and blow on keyboard. The powder sticks to skin oils on the keys. You can use the stuff that is used for dusting for fingerprints the same way.

I'll stop now since I don't want to provide "lessons."

And changing the PW periodically (as you're supposed to do) eliminates the problem of worn keys.