CDC Director: Loss of Unvaccinated Healthcare Workers Is a ‘Challenge’

[shunyadragon]

So the only reason shuny would vaccinate the illegals is so the vaccines that might expire might go in the trash.

Got it.

You are misrepresenting my posts. No that is not the only reason, The main reason is the same for the need for all people to be vaccinated to prevent the spread of COVID-19. Your neglecting the elephant in the room..At present it is the pandemic of the unvaccinated.

[Cow Poke]

You are misrepresenting my posts. No that is not the only reason, The main reason is to prevent the pread of COVID-19. Your neglecting the elephant in the room.

This is not an elephant thread - please take your elephant to Animal Husbandry.

[shunyadragon]

This is not an elephant thread - please take your elephant to Animal Husbandry.

OK, you do not understand analogies.

The main issue remains the millions of USA citizens that refuse ro be vaccinated. As far those 'streaming across the border.' yes they need also be vaccinated if possible. I would not want to allow the vaccines to expire, because millions refuse to be vaccinated in the USA

[Cow Poke]

OK, you do not understand analogies.

I do. You do not understand humor.

[mossrose]

OK, you do not understand analogies.

The main issue remains the millions of USA citizens that refuse ro be vaccinated. As far those 'streaming across the border.' yes they need also be vaccinated if possible. I would not want to allow the vaccines to expire, because millions refuse to be vaccinated in the USA

You are repeating yourself, and it sounds to me like you are saying that the illegals should be vaccinated only to use up the near-expired vaccines.

OR, maybe you are saying that the millions of American citizens who aren't vaccinated should be, and THEN we can vaccinate the illegals crossing the border.

But, the topic of this thread is REALLY that some health care workers don't want to get the vaccine and will be forced/coerced/threatened with losing their jobs or feeling as if they have to quit because of their desire to not be vaccinated, and the health care system will be in worse shape than it already is.

AND, as far as I am concerned, it is up to EACH person to decide if they want to get vaccinated, and no one should be forced/coerced/threatened/bribed to do it if they don't want to.

As I said previously in this thread, why does The Vaccine Cure to the Chicom Virus™, that was supposed to save us all, now need to be given to the unvaccinated in order that the vaccinated will be protected?

It is insane.

[Cow Poke]

You are repeating yourself, and it sounds to me like you are saying that the illegals should be vaccinated only to use up the near-expired vaccines.

OR, maybe you are saying that the millions of American citizens who aren't vaccinated should be, and THEN we can vaccinate the illegals crossing the border.

But, the topic of this thread is REALLY that some health care workers don't want to get the vaccine and will be forced/coerced/threatened with losing their jobs or feeling as if they have to quit because of their desire to not be vaccinated, and the health care system will be in worse shape than it already is.

AND, as far as I am concerned, it is up to EACH person to decide if they want to get vaccinated, and no one should be forced/coerced/threatened/bribed to do it if they don't want to.

As I said previously in this thread, why does The Vaccine Cure to the Chicom Virus™, that was supposed to save us all, now need to be given to the unvaccinated in order that the vaccinated will be protected?

It is insane.

Illegals coming across the border are probably some of the most "at risk" and "present a risk" people in the Country.

If the government were honestly concerned about stopping the spread of a virus - THAT is where a massive effort should be made. But they just don't seem to care.

[shunyadragon]

You are repeating yourself, and it sounds to me like you are saying that the illegals should be vaccinated only to use up the near-expired vaccines.

'Sounds to me' is misrepresenting my posts.

OR, maybe you are saying that the millions of American citizens who aren't vaccinated should be, and THEN we can vaccinate the illegals crossing the border.

Misrepresenting my post. I never said this.

But, the topic of this thread is REALLY that some health care workers don't want to get the vaccine and will be forced/coerced/threatened with losing their jobs or feeling as if they have to quit because of their desire to not be vaccinated, and the health care system will be in worse shape than it already is.

AND, as far as I am concerned, it is up to EACH person to decide if they want to get vaccinated, and no one should be forced/coerced/threatened/bribed to do it if they don't want to.

As I said previously in this thread, why does The Vaccine Cure to the Chicom Virus™, that was supposed to save us all, now need to be given to the unvaccinated in order that the vaccinated will be protected?

It is insane.

As far as your concerned is your problem. The issue of migrants at the border bring vaccinated was not the issue of the discussion in your opening post.

My view simply remains that everyone possible should be vaccinated to reduce the spread of the COVID-19.

[mossrose]

'Sounds to me' is misrepresenting my posts.



Misrepresenting my post. I never said this.



As far as your concerned is your problem. The issue of migrants at the border bring vaccinated was not the issue of the discussion in your opening post.

My view simply remains that everyone possible should be vaccinated to reduce the spread of the COVID-19.

The thread is not mine, I did not write the op.

I think you are confused, as usual.

[shunyadragon]

The thread is not mine, I did not write the op.

I think you are confused, as usual.

I appo[ogize, but no confusion. The thread is not about migrants getting vaccinated, but nonetheless I made my view clear.

My view simply remains that everyone possible should be vaccinated to reduce the spread of the COVID-19. The most important problem is the millions of Americans who refuse ro be vaccinated xontributing to the pandemic of the unvaccinated, and the problem includes health care workers that very well contribute to the spread of COVID-19.

[mossrose]

I appo[ogize, but no confusion. The thread is not about migrants getting vaccinated, but nonetheless I made my view clear.

My view simply remains that everyone possible should be vaccinated to reduce the spread of the COVID-19. The most important problem is the millions of Americans who refuse ro be vaccinated xontributing to the pandemic of the unvaccinated, and the problem includes health care workers that very well contribute to the spread of COVID-19.

You did state your view. And I stated mine.

The government has no business mandating that the whole world be vaccinated. And health care workers should have the choice to do so or not. And I think that, contrary to public opinion, many of these health care workers know a whole bunch more about it than some of the "experts" who’ve been feeding us nothing but misinformation and confusion over the past 18 months.

[shunyadragon]

You did state your view. And I stated mine.

The government has no business mandating that the whole world be vaccinated. And health care workers should have the choice to do so or not. And I think that, contrary to public opinion, many of these health care workers know a whole bunch more about it than some of the "experts" who’ve been feeding us nothing but misinformation and confusion over the past 18 months.

There is no such mandare forcing everyone be vaccinated in the USA. My view was clear and specific that everyone 'should' be vaccinated. It is up to the individual hospitals and institutions whether they should mandate vaccinations..

[Cow Poke]

I appo[ogize, but no confusion. The thread is not about migrants getting vaccinated, but nonetheless I made my view clear.

My view simply remains that everyone possible should be vaccinated to reduce the spread of the COVID-19. The most important problem is the millions of Americans who refuse ro be vaccinated xontributing to the pandemic of the unvaccinated, and the problem includes health care workers that very well contribute to the spread of COVID-19.

Yet the government seems totally uninterested in picking the low hanging fruit --- while there are those who stubbornly refuse to be vaccinated, those illegals streaming across the Rio Grande could easily be given the vaccinations, or sent back across the river.

Biden is a blithering idiot hypocrite.

[Sparko]

What's making it not possible?

The Biden administration is racist and wants brown people die of Covid-19. It's genocide!

[mossrose]

There is no such mandare forcing everyone be vaccinated in the USA. My view was clear and specific that everyone 'should' be vaccinated. It is up to the individual hospitals and institutions whether they should mandate vaccinations..

We are talking about health care workers in this thread, shuny. And I know that many Americans think their country is the only one on the planet. If you read the article I posted in this thread about my province, and the draconian letter to physicians from the College of Physicians and Surgeons, you would see that it is indeed the case that physicians, if not all health care workers here, are being forced to get the shot or lose their jobs.

Not only that, they are being told, in no uncertain terms, that the physicians are NOT allowed to voice any views about the vaccine that disagrees with it. Because that is spreading "disinformation".

So get the shot or lose your job, and don’t you dare say anything against the vaccine, to boot.

If that’s not a "mandate", I don’t know what is.

[shunyadragon]

We are talking about health care workers in this thread, shuny. And I know that many Americans think their country is the only one on the planet. If you read the article I posted in this thread about my province, and the draconian letter to physicians from the College of Physicians and Surgeons, you would see that it is indeed the case that physicians, if not all health care workers here, are being forced to get the shot or lose their jobs.

Not only that, they are being told, in no uncertain terms, that the physicians are NOT allowed to voice any views about the vaccine that disagrees with it. Because that is spreading "disinformation".

So get the shot or lose your job, and don’t you dare say anything against the vaccine, to boot.

If that’s not a "mandate", I don’t know what is.

Yes, individual companies, institutions, states and cities have the legal right to mandate vaccinations as it has been for a very long time in th eUSA. Biden did not issue any sort of national mandate.

If the thread is about 'only' about health care workers why the many posts about migrants?

I believe it is relevant reasoning that health care workers be vaccinated and the argument that ALL people should be vaccinated including healthcare workers. I have worked in Duke Hospital during the pandemic and currently work in a memory care facility where the employees must be vaccinated. I believe it is more critical that health care employees should be vaccinated, because they are more vulnerable to getting and spreading COVID-19. Also, health care workers are constantly in contact with vulnerable patients.
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