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  • #16
    Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post

    This just reflects your anti-science way if thinking entrenched in ancient mythology.
    You always make such silly comments. Do you do a comedy show on the weekends?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post

      You always make such silly comments. Do you do a comedy show on the weekends?

      You always make such antiquated anti-science comments ALL the time.
      Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
      Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
      But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

      go with the flow the river knows . . .

      Frank

      I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post


        You always make such antiquated anti-science comments ALL the time.
        Maybe you can elaborate on the new science that you are proposing.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post

          It is amazing how many times they prove that lockdowns only harm people. Then so much of the population still thinks they are helpful.

          It is amazing how many people get ill from the covid shots and from breakthrough illness and people still think the covid shots are helpful.

          We have to get back to the old normal before we kill out everything with the new normal.
          Too right. It's amazing that the two cities in Australia worst hit and with the longest running lockdowns are the same two cities that have the largest numbers of people defying lockdown orders. Why - its almost as if there is a connection.
          1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
          .
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          Scripture before Tradition:
          but that won't prevent others from
          taking it upon themselves to deprive you
          of the right to call yourself Christian.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post

            Maybe you can elaborate on the new science that you are proposing.
            No new science. It is you who simply reject the contemporary science of COVID-19, for example your cynical view toward the evolved variation of the virus that causes COVID-19.
            Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
            Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
            But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

            go with the flow the river knows . . .

            Frank

            I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by tabibito View Post

              Too right. It's amazing that the two cities in Australia worst hit and with the longest running lockdowns are the same two cities that have the largest numbers of people defying lockdown orders. Why - its almost as if there is a connection.
              I missed it. What is the death rate of the population overall? What is the death rate from covid-19? What percent of those people died while getting early treatment with Ivermectin or monoclodal antibodies?

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              • #22
                Covid-19 pandemic is a world pandemic' and not over yet. Great Britain is hit again hard, The numbers are approaching their July peak. Though deaths due to Covid-19 are down. Nonetheless people are dying from Covid-19 and suffering from the effects of Covid-19

                Source: https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/20/uk/uk-europe-covid-infections-cmd-gbr-intl/index.html



                The UK has more new Covid-19 cases than France, Germany, Italy and Spain combined

                By Rob Picheta, CNN

                London (CNN)Last December, as the first of several worrying Covid-19 variants ripped through the United Kingdom, Prime Minister Boris Johnson made the unwelcome decision to cancel Christmas plans for millions of Brits.

                "We are sacrificing our chance to see loved ones this Christmas, so we have a better chance of protecting their lives so we can see them at future Christmases," Johnson said, taking a potentially career-defining step that he had ruled out just days earlier.
                Ten months later, the UK's attitude towards Covid-19 has changed beyond recognition. Virtually all of England's restrictions were lifted in July, with the events and hospitality sectors returning to full capacity as Johnson urged Britons to "begin to learn to live with this virus."But the Delta variant -- more transmissible still than the Alpha strain which wrecked last year's festivities -- has not gone away.The country has quietly endured stubbornly high cases, hospitalizations and deaths when compared to the rest of Europe. Britain has registered nearly half a million cases in the past two weeks -- and almost 50,000 on Monday -- more than France, Germany, Italy and Spain combined. The UK reported 223 deaths on Tuesday, the highest daily figure since early March.Johnson has strayed from much of the European Union in his approach; while a number of countries on the continent have introduced vaccine passports, England halted its original plan to do so. Mask-wearing and social distancing and other measures are no longer required by law in Britain.
                That contrasts with far stricter measures in several European nations, where proof of vaccination or a negative test are needed to visits bars and restaurants or
                work in several fields, including healthcare.

                © Copyright Original Source




                Last edited by shunyadragon; 10-21-2021, 10:55 PM.
                Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                go with the flow the river knows . . .

                Frank

                I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

                Comment


                • #23
                  Originally posted by Machinist View Post
                  We are at the end. Let's go with that.
                  In the UK Covid cases are escalating sharply, and although vaccination is keeping down the more serious cases we are all worried about how things will go this winter. I get my Covid Vax booster on this Sunday, got the flu jab last month....... we are not relaxing too much just yet.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                    Covid-19 pandemic is a world pandemic' and not over yet. Great Britain is hit again hard, The numbers are approaching their July peak. Though deaths due to Covid-19 are down. Nonetheless people are dying from Covid-19 and suffering from the effects of Covid-19

                    [cite=https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/20/uk/uk-europe-covid-infections-cmd-gbr-intl/index.html]


                    The UK has more new Covid-19 cases than France, Germany, Italy and Spain combined
                    Yes......... The medics here want a return to mandatory mask wearing, social distancing and crowd controls. Covid has only got to mutate in to something nastier and we are going to be in trouble.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                      Covid-19 pandemic is a world pandemic' and not over yet. Great Britain is hit again hard, The numbers are approaching their July peak. Though deaths due to Covid-19 are down. Nonetheless people are dying from Covid-19 and suffering from the effects of Covid-19

                      Source: https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/20/uk/uk-europe-covid-infections-cmd-gbr-intl/index.html



                      The UK has more new Covid-19 cases than France, Germany, Italy and Spain combined

                      By Rob Picheta, CNN

                      London (CNN)Last December, as the first of several worrying Covid-19 variants ripped through the United Kingdom, Prime Minister Boris Johnson made the unwelcome decision to cancel Christmas plans for millions of Brits.

                      "We are sacrificing our chance to see loved ones this Christmas, so we have a better chance of protecting their lives so we can see them at future Christmases," Johnson said, taking a potentially career-defining step that he had ruled out just days earlier.
                      Ten months later, the UK's attitude towards Covid-19 has changed beyond recognition. Virtually all of England's restrictions were lifted in July, with the events and hospitality sectors returning to full capacity as Johnson urged Britons to "begin to learn to live with this virus."But the Delta variant -- more transmissible still than the Alpha strain which wrecked last year's festivities -- has not gone away.The country has quietly endured stubbornly high cases, hospitalizations and deaths when compared to the rest of Europe. Britain has registered nearly half a million cases in the past two weeks -- and almost 50,000 on Monday -- more than France, Germany, Italy and Spain combined. The UK reported 223 deaths on Tuesday, the highest daily figure since early March.Johnson has strayed from much of the European Union in his approach; while a number of countries on the continent have introduced vaccine passports, England halted its original plan to do so. Mask-wearing and social distancing and other measures are no longer required by law in Britain.
                      That contrasts with far stricter measures in several European nations, where proof of vaccination or a negative test are needed to visits bars and restaurants or
                      work in several fields, including healthcare.

                      © Copyright Original Source



                      When is the covid pandemic going to be over? What is the end game -- the resolution of it?

                      What if the covid shots keep failing, are we going to stop living anyhow?

                      At what point do we just say that this is something we just have to suffer through?

                      We simply cannot live in fear of this forever more. Especially, the worldwide rate of death has been similar to the rate of flu deaths. And covid-19 seems to have simply replaced flu deaths -- which this is just trading flu for coronavirus.

                      Plus, the number of covid cases has always been a farce. I know shuny likes to keep saying that the PCR tests should count as people dying, but this is a new phenomena only introduced during the covid fiasco. We should not change the science just because of the news has hyped this covid stuff up to the nth degree.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post

                        When is the covid pandemic going to be over?
                        When people stop dying and suffering the effects of Covid-19.

                        What is the end game -- the resolution of it?
                        Two end games: (1) Possible natural passing of the pandemic as in pandemics in the past like flu pandemics. This may not nappen with Covid-19 like some other viruses like cold viruses. (2) Sufficient people get vaccinated to end the significant death and suffering die to the effects of Covid-19. The Covid-19 pandemic is decreasing, but not over yet, because the of the continuing outbreaks around the world,

                        What if the covid shots keep failing,
                        Vaccines are not failing. They are very successful based on the actuall scientific and statistical evidence

                        are we going to stop living anyhow?
                        Meaningless nonsense.

                        At what point do we just say that this is something we just have to suffer through?
                        We suffer through ALL virus pandemics as in the past. Nothing new.

                        We simply cannot live in fear of this forever more. Especially, the worldwide rate of death has been similar to the rate of flu deaths.
                        No, the answer is not living in fear. We have to deal with the reality of the pandemic as in the past.

                        covid-19 seems to have simply replaced flu deaths --
                        Absolutely false.

                        . .. which this is just trading flu for coronavirus.
                        False two different virus diseases, and they behave differently in their natural relationship with the human population.

                        Plus, the number of covid cases has always been a farce.
                        Absolutely false statement. Infection rates are not the best metric for the pandemic, but by the evidence demonstrates that number of pandemic cases are in proportion to the deaths, serious hospitalizations, and the number of people suffering serious after effects As I have repeated made clear with references the main metrics of the pandemic are the death rate and hospitalizations are decreasing, but remain at pandemic levels. It is natural that the deaths and hospitalizations decrease, because of increasing vaccinations, and increased younger patients with better survival rates,

                        I know shuny likes to keep saying that the PCR tests should count as people dying, but this is a new phenomena only introduced during the covid fiasco. We should not change the science just because of the news has hyped this covid stuff up to the nth degree.
                        Nothing has changed and the science is accurate. This post again reflects your anti-pandemic and anti-science agenda asin the past. Also dishonest repeated asserting false statements and misuse of sources.

                        The bottomline of your false assertion is the pandemic HAS NOT ENDED..
                        Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                        Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                        But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                        go with the flow the river knows . . .

                        Frank

                        I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

                        Comment


                        • #27
                          Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post

                          When people stop dying and suffering the effects of Covid-19.



                          Two end games: (1) Possible natural passing of the pandemic as in pandemics in the past like flu pandemics. This may not nappen with Covid-19 like some other viruses like cold viruses. (2) Sufficient people get vaccinated to end the significant death and suffering die to the effects of Covid-19. The Covid-19 pandemic is decreasing, but not over yet, because the of the continuing outbreaks around the world,



                          Vaccines are not failing. They are very successful based on the actuall scientific and statistical evidence



                          Meaningless nonsense.



                          We suffer through ALL virus pandemics as in the past. Nothing new.



                          No, the answer is not living in fear. We have to deal with the reality of the pandemic as in the past.



                          Absolutely false.



                          False two different virus diseases, and they behave differently in their natural relationship with the human population.



                          Absolutely false statement. Infection rates are not the best metric for the pandemic, but by the evidence demonstrates that number of pandemic cases are in proportion to the deaths, serious hospitalizations, and the number of people suffering serious after effects As I have repeated made clear with references the main metrics of the pandemic are the death rate and hospitalizations are decreasing, but remain at pandemic levels. It is natural that the deaths and hospitalizations decrease, because of increasing vaccinations, and increased younger patients with better survival rates,



                          Nothing has changed and the science is accurate. This post again reflects your anti-pandemic and anti-science agenda asin the past. Also dishonest repeated asserting false statements and misuse of sources.

                          The bottomline of your false assertion is the pandemic HAS NOT ENDED..
                          So, you are unable to answer any question. The number of deaths attributed to covid-19 has been greatly exaggerated especially in light of malpractice of so many hospitals. Also, you have missed the point on flu -- which totally disappeared during covid-19 so we must assume that flu/influenza deaths were included in covid-19 numbers.

                          Deaths will happen from any disease. So, your requirement that no deaths happen is absolutely absurd. I'm not sure where to find anything meaningful in your response. Plus, people are reporting more accounts of deaths and injuries by the experimental covid shots than they personally heard about in 2020. So, at best, we are replacing covid-19 deaths with covid shot deaths. The covid shots are so bad that even after 6 months they are failing in great numbers. But if you have faith in covid, try your best to live by that faith.

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                          • #28
                            [QUOTE=mikewhitney;n1318485]

                            So, you are unable to answer any question. The number of deaths attributed to covid-19 has been greatly exaggerated especially in light of malpractice of so many hospitals. Also, you have missed the point on flu -- which totally disappeared during covid-19 so we must assume that flu/influenza deaths were included in covid-19 numbers. [/quote[

                            Answered ALL questions,

                            Deaths will happen from any disease.
                            The subject is deaths and suffering documented from Covid-19 not any disease.

                            Nothing has changed and the science is accurate. This post again reflects your anti-pandemic and anti-science agenda asin the past. Also dishonest repeated asserting false statements and misuse of sources.

                            The bottomline of your false assertion is the pandemic HAS NOT ENDED..
                            Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                            Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                            But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                            go with the flow the river knows . . .

                            Frank

                            I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

                            Comment


                            • #29
                              Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                              So, you are unable to answer any question. The number of deaths attributed to covid-19 has been greatly exaggerated especially in light of malpractice of so many hospitals. Also, you have missed the point on flu -- which totally disappeared during covid-19 so we must assume that flu/influenza deaths were included in covid-19 numbers. [/quote[

                              Answered ALL questions,



                              The subject is deaths and suffering documented from Covid-19 not any disease.

                              Nothing has changed and the science is accurate. This post again reflects your anti-pandemic and anti-science agenda asin the past. Also dishonest repeated asserting false statements and misuse of sources.

                              The bottomline of your false assertion is the pandemic HAS NOT ENDED..
                              I keep on sharing the science but no one accepts it. The science is accurate but people keep rejecting it. I don't expect that you will veer from that course. And certainly I am anti-pandemic. I'm not sure where you get the idea that I want the government to keep extending a pandemic of fear and offering deadly solutions.

                              You call it "meaningless nonsense" when I speak of people stopping life because of fear of a overstated pandemic. If you want to go dig holes and live underground in a small cell, that is your choice. Don't expect other people to want to live in darkness. I indeed am making an emotional appeal since the science is unable to penetrate the minds of very many of people who are just reacting in fear now.
                              Last edited by mikewhitney; 10-28-2021, 06:25 PM.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post

                                I keep on sharing the science but no one accepts it. The science is accurate but people keep rejecting it. I don't expect that you will veer from that course. And certainly I am anti-pandemic. I'm not sure where you get the idea that I want the government to keep extending a pandemic of fear and offering deadly solutions.
                                Problem . . . you select references dishonestly and have an anti science agenda.

                                You call it "meaningless nonsense" when I speak of people stopping life because of fear of a overstated pandemic. If you want to go dig holes and live underground in a small cell, that is your choice. Don't expect other people to want to live in darkness. I indeed am making an emotional appeal since the science is unable to penetrate the minds of very many of people who are just reacting in fear now.
                                Yes, and this is as meaningless as a three dollar bill in Las Vegas.
                                Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                                Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                                But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                                go with the flow the river knows . . .

                                Frank

                                I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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