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  • #91
    mikewhitney

    Mike...! On the side of the thread......
    My wife was treated with Ivermectin by intravenous drip in 2014, at K&C hospital Canterbury.
    She had sepsis caused by a knee injury, blood clots in several organs (and in her heart!!) and was later found to have a tumour on an adrenal gland.
    After the sepsis bacteria (Staffy--) was killed she was sent off to the phaeo team at Kings College to be rid of the Phaeo Chromo Cytoma.

    So we do have Ivermectin, Mike. We just ain't using it for the Covid virus. But it's bloomin' marvellous against bacteria.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by eider View Post
      How has it worked for you?



      So you DO understand why ventilators have been used?
      So you won't be knocking ventilator use in future?



      That was your projection for all people, several months ago, and you were wrong.
      If in several months all our older teens are vaxed, with very very few reactions, what will you say then?



      That's because many people can carry Covid without being much affected by it, Mike.
      That's why anybody testing positive for Covid should isolate, Mike.



      We've all been vaccinated around here, Mike, and I don't anybody who has got ill from them.
      I am fine without anything yet. If there is a threat to my health as observed by people getting sick, I will focus on protective medicine.

      And yes I have studied the use of ventilators. People in the field also have explained why some medics use the equipment to protect the medics instead of the patients -- this is reportedly why they were used. Ventilators are not needed just to get oxygen but basically for people that would have trouble in the breathing process. If oxygen is in the blood but not delivered to the cells, you can help a little with higher partial pressure of oxygen. But the ventilator in that case is an overkill -- pun intended.

      Your mindset is all wrong whey you speak of the situation a couple months from now for the teens. Yes we are seeing many injured -- and for no reason since they are not likely to have severe covid-19. However, the long term effects have yet to be seen. So, I do not know why you are so naive with your question.

      Just a nitpick here -- people do not carry covid. They may be detected for sars-cov2. This usually means nothing. But if someone is positive and that person is sick, it is better to stay at home and even take Ivermectin or high dosage of Vitamin D.

      If you and those around you have not gotten sick, that is wonderful to hear. But show compassion for those who have been injured. Check out https://www.covidvaccinevictims.com/

      You can also get stats for the UK at https://coronavirus-yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/

      Any injury to a teen is a total disgrace -- totally wrong because they should not have gotten the shots.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by eider View Post
        mikewhitney

        Mike...! On the side of the thread......
        My wife was treated with Ivermectin by intravenous drip in 2014, at K&C hospital Canterbury.
        She had sepsis caused by a knee injury, blood clots in several organs (and in her heart!!) and was later found to have a tumour on an adrenal gland.
        After the sepsis bacteria (Staffy--) was killed she was sent off to the phaeo team at Kings College to be rid of the Phaeo Chromo Cytoma.

        So we do have Ivermectin, Mike. We just ain't using it for the Covid virus. But it's bloomin' marvellous against bacteria.
        And it is bloomin' evil that it is not being administered to covid-19 patients. I have shared the list of studies at c19ivermectin.com. And against the claim that Ivermectin does not work against viruses, we have a study that was done -- Antivirus effectiveness of ivermectin on dengue virus type 2 in Aedes albopictus https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30452439/

        I think this study was done upon indications of the successful use against the Dengue virus. Then our bureaucrats at the CDC posted an idiotic statement that this is just for worms in cows. Whoever posted that ignorant statement should be fired. Total incompetence.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by eider View Post
          Which unfortunate people? All around here are double vaxxed. I've heard of no reactions.


          What dosage have you been receiving? Can you tellk us about your own experience with Ivermectine?


          So far,. so good.
          This virus will evolve, it will change, just as it already has.
          I don't know how things will develop, and nor do you, but I hope our medics and researchers keep at it, doing their best to look ahead.
          Once you are qualified maybe you too can join the researchers...... doing your best for your folks where you are.
          I am just a messenger for information that is readily available. We have seen incompetence with the medics and with agencies like the CDC and WHO. Fauci cannot keep information constant. So, the problem of missing the Ivermectin studies just verifies the incompetence. Ivermectin has been used in a couple "states" in India where there has thus been no problem with covid-19.

          As to my use of Ivermectin, I have not been exposed to anything in the last year. Maybe February 2020 I may have had a little encounter with it --a weird problem getting my breath. It is certainly something I will get if I feel threatened by anything going around.

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          • #95
            I'm not closely following the studies, but ISTM that a big problem with the available Ivermectin is that the dosage and additional ingredients are designed for animals, often BIG ones, and may well be harmful to humans. It would be best not self-administered but administered by a knowledgeable physician -- which would probably cost that physician his or her medical license.

            This is the evil being foisted on us by the fascist clerics of Scientism.
            Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

            Beige Nationalist.

            "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

            Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
              I am just a messenger for information that is readily available. We have seen incompetence with the medics and with agencies like the CDC and WHO. Fauci cannot keep information constant. So, the problem of missing the Ivermectin studies just verifies the incompetence. Ivermectin has been used in a couple "states" in India where there has thus been no problem with covid-19.

              As to my use of Ivermectin, I have not been exposed to anything in the last year. Maybe February 2020 I may have had a little encounter with it --a weird problem getting my breath. It is certainly something I will get if I feel threatened by anything going around.
              I acknowledge your last three posts.
              Questions cannot be nave, Mike. Talk like that inhibits people from asking questions, so reduces communication.

              Update. In the UK we are preparing to vaccinate 12-16 yr olds from next month, just reported on the news today.

              We haven't had to wear masks in public places for a few weeks now but about half the public still do.
              Masks have saved many folks from harm this last 16 months but I still read posts which criticise them. Masks are about 10% effective. I think that masks have tended to focus people on the rules and guidelines in place, such as giving space to others, acknowledging other peoples' attempts to give space, hand cleansing and not touching where unnecessary.... some shops here have had a 'touch it, you buy it!' rule.

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              • #97
                What if....

                The whole idea that the vaccine can't be trusted is a liberal democrat plot?

                Hear me out.
                1. When Trump came out with the vaccine they were the first to make comments like "I wouldn't take any vaccine that Trump was promoting"
                2. They wasted no time in grabbing the power reigns once Biden was in charge and limit freedoms and movement, mandating masks and etc.
                3. If the disease goes away then they would lose all that power.
                4. As long as people refuse to get the vaccine, the disease will continue to spread and they have an excuse to make people keep wearing masks and not go back to work.
                5. This allows them excuses to keep their totalitarian power grab and push through their socialist agendas and programs.
                6. Therefore they are spreading the rumors that the vaccine is dangerous, and co-opting Trump supporters to help them keep their power!

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  What if....

                  The whole idea that the vaccine can't be trusted is a liberal democrat plot?

                  Hear me out.
                  1. When Trump came out with the vaccine they were the first to make comments like "I wouldn't take any vaccine that Trump was promoting"
                  2. They wasted no time in grabbing the power reigns once Biden was in charge and limit freedoms and movement, mandating masks and etc.
                  3. If the disease goes away then they would lose all that power.
                  4. As long as people refuse to get the vaccine, the disease will continue to spread and they have an excuse to make people keep wearing masks and not go back to work.
                  5. This allows them excuses to keep their totalitarian power grab and push through their socialist agendas and programs.
                  6. Therefore they are spreading the rumors that the vaccine is dangerous, and co-opting Trump supporters to help them keep their power!
                  A big element that is very odd is that Trump recommended the experimental shots -- and I think still does. Yet, conservatives (more than leftists -- as things seem) are more aware of the dangers of the experiment. On the other hand, the leftists (since there are not really many liberals around), have been most willing to dive in blindly. Still, the conservatives have often gone for the shots -- which is the power of Mass Psychosis. People are not acting "normal."

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by eider View Post

                    I acknowledge your last three posts.
                    Questions cannot be nave, Mike. Talk like that inhibits people from asking questions, so reduces communication.

                    Update. In the UK we are preparing to vaccinate 12-16 yr olds from next month, just reported on the news today.

                    We haven't had to wear masks in public places for a few weeks now but about half the public still do.
                    Masks have saved many folks from harm this last 16 months but I still read posts which criticise them. Masks are about 10% effective. I think that masks have tended to focus people on the rules and guidelines in place, such as giving space to others, acknowledging other peoples' attempts to give space, hand cleansing and not touching where unnecessary.... some shops here have had a 'touch it, you buy it!' rule.
                    There is no need to wear masks except perhaps if one is symptomatic with coughing, sneezing and maybe runny noses. One on the back end too in case someone farts. I think it is even normal and natural to take off the mask if one sneezes -- otherwise the masks would get rather yucky (to borrow the scientific terminology).

                    The number of deaths in the UK have been akin to flu season deaths. We have no indication that masks and lockdowns help first because there were no control groups and second because places with no masks, no lockdowns end up with the same disease curves as those that do all these acts.

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                    • Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post

                      A big element that is very odd is that Trump recommended the experimental shots -- and I think still does. Yet, conservatives (more than leftists -- as things seem) are more aware of the dangers of the experiment. On the other hand, the leftists (since there are not really many liberals around), have been most willing to dive in blindly. Still, the conservatives have often gone for the shots -- which is the power of Mass Psychosis. People are not acting "normal."
                      That all fits in with my theory. The leftists are getting the vaccine making the conservatives take the risks of COVID. That means the conservatives are not only enabling Biden and the left's power grabs by giving them excuses to keep people at home and wearing masks, it means that the conservatives will be the ones getting sick and dying instead of the democrats. Win/win.

                      You are helping Biden, Mike. Turncoat!

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                      • Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                        That all fits in with my theory. The leftists are getting the vaccine making the conservatives take the risks of COVID. That means the conservatives are not only enabling Biden and the left's power grabs by giving them excuses to keep people at home and wearing masks, it means that the conservatives will be the ones getting sick and dying instead of the democrats. Win/win.

                        You are helping Biden, Mike. Turncoat!
                        I've heard that nasty commies produced the covid virus to pass over lefty folks and only nobble them righties..... eventually lefties would have been in the majority everywhere. But some idiot lab technician....you know how it can happen..... just mixed up the blooming test tubes and just look at the end results.

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