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  • #31
    The best advice here is that people accept the well-founded scientific studies. We see this at https://c19study.com. It is illogical (especially when lacking some keener point of view) to disregard the careful studies and analyses of science.

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    • #32
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Stoic View Post
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        Mr. Stoic, I'm not sure what you have decided to disregard. You have not objected to the scientific studies with any quality response.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
          whats wrong with the covid-19 virus?

          When the deaths had become manageable (and reducible by common medicines), the media switched over to an emphasis on tests by asymptomatic people in the communities.

          This is one of the few viruses that gets constant propaganda pushed on the public with trite sayings: wash your hands; social distance; wear your masks; we are all in this together.

          This exaggerrated coronavirus news is being used to push a vaccine certification for traveling to other countries.
          Hi.........
          Just to let you know what's happening in Kent-UK.
          You'd better hope that this new strain doesn't come your way. Honestly.

          My friend caught Covid and was very ill, previously he scoffed at the reports about it. Not now,
          My wife's sister caught it and was very ill..... her friend died.
          Neighbours have it, relatives and colleagues.
          The new mutations are much more infectious and if the variants from Kent/UK, South Africa or razil reach you then you will soon understand what's with Covid.

          Our ambulance service is being assisted by Fire Brigade personnel vehicles and charity ambulances. Hotels have been taken over to receive Covid patients.

          And I don't think the sickness has reached anything like it's worst here, yet...... the acceleration is shocking.

          Temporary morgue set up in north Kent for Covid-19 bodies ...www.newsshopper.co.uk › news › 19010994.temporar...
          2 hours ago — A large temporary mortuary has been set up in north Kent to store bodies as the Covid-19 death toll rises.

          Temporary mortuaries in south-east England needed to cope ...www.theguardian.com › uk-news › jan › bodies-stored-...
          3 days ago — Surrey hospital morgues now full as Kent facility offers 950 spaces and extra ... morgue is being built in London as a rising death toll from Covid ...

          Temporary morgue set up in Aylesford to relieve pressure on ...www.kentonline.co.uk › maidstone › news › bodies-of-...
          3 days ago — Temporary morgue set up in Aylesford to relieve pressure on hospital mortuaries as Covid-19 deaths rise. Kent Travel News News alertsSign me ...

          Temporary morgues set up as UK hospitals run out ... - Reuterswww.reuters.com › health-coronavirus-britain-morgue
          2 days ago — British authorities have had to set up a temporary morgues in some areas ... out of space due to a surge in deaths caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. ... up or are being set up in London and Kent, also in southeast England.

          Huge pop-up morgue set up for coronavirus victims as ...www.kentlive.news › ... › Kent County Council
          3 days ago — Sign up to FREE email alerts from KentLive - Daily ... A huge temporary morgue has opened in Aylesford as the number of people dying from ...



          East Kent Hospitals Trust's Covid-19 death rate 'highest in ...www.kentonline.co.uk › canterbury › news › the-kent-...
          31 Dec 2020 — More people are dying with coronavirus in a Kent hospitals trust than anywhere else in England, new figures reveal.

          Latest information on the Coronavirus - Maidstone and ...www.mtw.nhs.uk › 2020/12 › latest-information-on-the...
          23 Dec 2020 — Our hospital is very busy and we expect that to continue over the coming weeks

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          • #35
            Originally posted by eider View Post

            Hi.........
            Just to let you know what's happening in Kent-UK.
            You'd better hope that this new strain doesn't come your way. Honestly.

            My friend caught Covid and was very ill, previously he scoffed at the reports about it. Not now,
            My wife's sister caught it and was very ill..... her friend died.
            Neighbours have it, relatives and colleagues.
            The new mutations are much more infectious and if the variants from Kent/UK, South Africa or razil reach you then you will soon understand what's with Covid.

            Our ambulance service is being assisted by Fire Brigade personnel vehicles and charity ambulances. Hotels have been taken over to receive Covid patients.

            And I don't think the sickness has reached anything like it's worst here, yet...... the acceleration is shocking.

            Temporary morgue set up in north Kent for Covid-19 bodies ...www.newsshopper.co.uk › news › 19010994.temporar...
            2 hours ago — A large temporary mortuary has been set up in north Kent to store bodies as the Covid-19 death toll rises.

            Temporary mortuaries in south-east England needed to cope ...www.theguardian.com › uk-news › jan › bodies-stored-...
            3 days ago — Surrey hospital morgues now full as Kent facility offers 950 spaces and extra ... morgue is being built in London as a rising death toll from Covid ...

            Temporary morgue set up in Aylesford to relieve pressure on ...www.kentonline.co.uk › maidstone › news › bodies-of-...
            3 days ago — Temporary morgue set up in Aylesford to relieve pressure on hospital mortuaries as Covid-19 deaths rise. Kent Travel News News alertsSign me ...

            Temporary morgues set up as UK hospitals run out ... - Reuterswww.reuters.com › health-coronavirus-britain-morgue
            2 days ago — British authorities have had to set up a temporary morgues in some areas ... out of space due to a surge in deaths caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. ... up or are being set up in London and Kent, also in southeast England.

            Huge pop-up morgue set up for coronavirus victims as ...www.kentlive.news › ... › Kent County Council
            3 days ago — Sign up to FREE email alerts from KentLive - Daily ... A huge temporary morgue has opened in Aylesford as the number of people dying from ...



            East Kent Hospitals Trust's Covid-19 death rate 'highest in ...www.kentonline.co.uk › canterbury › news › the-kent-...
            31 Dec 2020 — More people are dying with coronavirus in a Kent hospitals trust than anywhere else in England, new figures reveal.

            Latest information on the Coronavirus - Maidstone and ...www.mtw.nhs.uk › 2020/12 › latest-information-on-the...
            23 Dec 2020 — Our hospital is very busy and we expect that to continue over the coming weeks
            What treatments are they using against the virus in these places?

            Have you been able to verify the activity at the morgues? We saw freezer trucks in New York City that never were used. So the deaths did not reach the level needed for the actions they prepared for.

            We already saw the case of the Martin Luther King hospital where the news report showed more activity than was able to be examined the next day or so.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post

              What treatments are they using against the virus in these places?
              All they can do is give oxygen to patients in diffuclty, and place the worst cases in to coma for auto-respiration.
              I have heard that we are using an inhalation 'Interferon B' I think it is which seems to have a 10% effectiveness at helping a patient with breathing. We tried Hydrochloriquine but without much success.
              Some folks can fight off Covid with ease, others can die and all stages in between.

              Have you been able to verify the activity at the morgues? We saw freezer trucks in New York City that never were used. So the deaths did not reach the level needed for the actions they prepared for.
              I don't know about New York but all we have to do here is see/hear the ambulances travelling around. The morgues here are overflowing and a Morgue at Aylesford was built in preparation for such events as we are experiencing.

              We already saw the case of the Martin Luther King hospital where the news report showed more activity than was able to be examined the next day or so.
              I don't know about your area but we are (or just have been) the worst area in the World with a 1-100 case incidence in Medway Towns and some districts up to 1-3 incidence.
              A lot of US citizens think this is all a scam, it seems. If you are so unfortunate as to get the Kent/UK, South African or Brazilian mutations you're soon going to find out first hand what it's all about. The thing is, we hear that so many S citizens are not bothering with distancing, hand washing, staying home etc that if you get the virus that we've got you'll be inundated.

              Our 2020 death toll matches the 1919 and 1940 tolls, the former was the Spanish Flu, the latter the German Blitiz, mostly. This is much worse though. At this rate our 2021 death toll is going to be an all time worst year. I bet we equal the 2020 toll by August..... let's see.

              I really do wish everyone, everywhere the very best.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by eider View Post
                All they can do is give oxygen to patients in diffuclty, and place the worst cases in to coma for auto-respiration.
                I have heard that we are using an inhalation 'Interferon B' I think it is which seems to have a 10% effectiveness at helping a patient with breathing. We tried Hydrochloriquine but without much success.
                Some folks can fight off Covid with ease, others can die and all stages in between.


                I don't know about New York but all we have to do here is see/hear the ambulances travelling around. The morgues here are overflowing and a Morgue at Aylesford was built in preparation for such events as we are experiencing.


                I don't know about your area but we are (or just have been) the worst area in the World with a 1-100 case incidence in Medway Towns and some districts up to 1-3 incidence.
                A lot of US citizens think this is all a scam, it seems. If you are so unfortunate as to get the Kent/UK, South African or Brazilian mutations you're soon going to find out first hand what it's all about. The thing is, we hear that so many S citizens are not bothering with distancing, hand washing, staying home etc that if you get the virus that we've got you'll be inundated.

                Our 2020 death toll matches the 1919 and 1940 tolls, the former was the Spanish Flu, the latter the German Blitiz, mostly. This is much worse though. At this rate our 2021 death toll is going to be an all time worst year. I bet we equal the 2020 toll by August..... let's see.

                I really do wish everyone, everywhere the very best.
                Were that treatments of HCQ (and with Zinc?) done early on when symptoms came on or was it after their sickness progressed?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post

                  Were that treatments of HCQ (and with Zinc?) done early on when symptoms came on or was it after their sickness progressed?
                  Yes, and HCQ (and with Zinc) was put aside by our medical researchers.
                  If you believe that HCQ will help you then you need to start using it now because Covid is really starting to rage through some of your communities. We are having difficulty in producing enough oxygen for more serious cases and we hear that some parts of the US are as well.

                  If you don't believe in or trust your own medical specialists then then is sad but in the UK a very large % of us do. We can't imagine any Government deliberately spewing out propaganda in order to reduce and control the people because just now the whole country is on its knees over this sickness. But if you believe in anything like that it would be helpful if you could suggest how and why it is doing this and for what reasons.

                  Do you think that the Media retailers who have made billions in profit dreamed this up (and supported by your government) to increase their wealth? I hear about that a lot.

                  Which State do you live in?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by eider View Post

                    Yes, and HCQ (and with Zinc) was put aside by our medical researchers.
                    If you believe that HCQ will help you then you need to start using it now because Covid is really starting to rage through some of your communities. We are having difficulty in producing enough oxygen for more serious cases and we hear that some parts of the US are as well.

                    If you don't believe in or trust your own medical specialists then then is sad but in the UK a very large % of us do. We can't imagine any Government deliberately spewing out propaganda in order to reduce and control the people because just now the whole country is on its knees over this sickness. But if you believe in anything like that it would be helpful if you could suggest how and why it is doing this and for what reasons.

                    Do you think that the Media retailers who have made billions in profit dreamed this up (and supported by your government) to increase their wealth? I hear about that a lot.

                    Which State do you live in?
                    Did you say that HCQ with Zinc has been tried in early stages of the symptoms of Covid-19? This is where the effectiveness of it is best demonstrated. I can't tell whether you have experience in the use of this on patients.

                    I tried to get statistics on the number of deaths in Kent County. I sort of stopped when all I got was the number of cases. Since we have had the https://cormandrostenreview.com/report , we find that the number of cases is found to be rather useless, since these statistics tend to be estimated to have 97% percent false positives. The Kent County data on positive tests is at: https://www.kpho.org.uk/health-intel...virus-covid-19

                    Do you know if there is an official site that lists the deaths per day (or per week) for Kent County?

                    Who cares about the media?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by eider View Post

                      Hi.........
                      Just to let you know what's happening in Kent-UK.
                      You'd better hope that this new strain doesn't come your way. Honestly.

                      My friend caught Covid and was very ill, previously he scoffed at the reports about it. Not now,
                      My wife's sister caught it and was very ill..... her friend died.
                      Neighbours have it, relatives and colleagues.

                      I'm passively trying to get the most details on people that have become ill as possible covid-19 patients. We have seen one guy at tweb report on his encounter.

                      i'm trying to understand what this is and what it does. It still is often reported to have numbers equivalent to a bad flu season -- but the statistics are all over the place (crazy, mixed up).

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post

                        Did you say that HCQ with Zinc has been tried in early stages of the symptoms of Covid-19? This is where the effectiveness of it is best demonstrated. I can't tell whether you have experience in the use of this on patients.

                        I tried to get statistics on the number of deaths in Kent County. I sort of stopped when all I got was the number of cases. Since we have had the https://cormandrostenreview.com/report , we find that the number of cases is found to be rather useless, since these statistics tend to be estimated to have 97% percent false positives. The Kent County data on positive tests is at: https://www.kpho.org.uk/health-intel...virus-covid-19

                        Do you know if there is an official site that lists the deaths per day (or per week) for Kent County?

                        Who cares about the media?
                        All cases so ill to be in hospitals are positive.
                        false positives are all about perfectly well people who test positive .. true?

                        Did you access those reports that I linked?
                        The government stats cover the whole of four countries, so single counties tend not feature.

                        If you focus for www.gov.uk Covid reports then you can trawl through those.
                        Our death rate at present is the worst since Covid cane here.

                        Question...... Do you believe that your country is making Covid up?

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by eider View Post

                          All cases so ill to be in hospitals are positive.
                          false positives are all about perfectly well people who test positive .. true?

                          Did you access those reports that I linked?
                          The government stats cover the whole of four countries, so single counties tend not feature.

                          If you focus for www.gov.uk Covid reports then you can trawl through those.
                          Our death rate at present is the worst since Covid cane here.

                          Question...... Do you believe that your country is making Covid up?
                          Your links do not come out properly. I still do not know where to find the deaths in Kent County.

                          As to the RT-PCR test, it has some usefulness when testing patients who have symptoms. This is mostly in the first 4-6 days. Even then, the number of cycles needs to be 25 or less -- not the typical 30 or higher.

                          It does not matter what covid-19 is. The death rate is only up by 20 percent compared to 2019. This is not a epidemic level.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post

                            Your links do not come out properly. I still do not know where to find the deaths in Kent County.

                            As to the RT-PCR test, it has some usefulness when testing patients who have symptoms. This is mostly in the first 4-6 days. Even then, the number of cycles needs to be 25 or less -- not the typical 30 or higher.

                            It does not matter what covid-19 is. The death rate is only up by 20 percent compared to 2019. This is not a epidemic level.
                            Oh, I'm sorry about the links. I will search around tomorrow morning for anything more definite for you. (it's 11pm here).
                            Our death rate in the UK for 2020 reached the death rates from 1919 (Spanish Flu) and 1940 (Getting hell bombed out of us by Hitler and hunger).

                            You're lucky! With any luck Covid won't hit you like it has here. Although we do hear that some US cities are running low on oxygen stocks. Is that in Los Angeles? I forget.

                            I'll come back on Kent/UK reports. The death rate is usually reported by the day for the entire UK, all four countries. Our death rate is much higher than yours, we've passed 100,000 deaths now and our po;pulation is 65 million, so if I multiply that by, say, five/six times (?) then you would have had to lose 600,000 to be anywhere near our situation.

                            I hope that the Brazilian, Kent/UK or South African strains don't get near where you are.

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                            • #44
                              i was able to track down a few of the links based on the info you gave.

                              i also don't hope for any new strains in the States. They always are finding new excuses to extend ineffective lockdowns and mask-wearing.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                                i was able to track down a few of the links based on the info you gave.

                                i also don't hope for any new strains in the States. They always are finding new excuses to extend ineffective lockdowns and mask-wearing.
                                Hi......
                                Try this link. You've probably figured out by now that I'm rubbish at IT.

                                This should work for you:-

                                https://www.kentlive.news/news/kent-...number-4873934

                                Four hospitals in Kent face being overwhelmed as the COVID crisis worsens.
                                Hospitals across the south east have been placed under high alert levels in an alarming update from the NHS.
                                Three hospitals in Kent have been classed as under full stretch, while one is in a full emergency state.
                                Darent Valley Hospital is now at Critcon 4 - the highest alert level - and is the only hospital in the UK to have this level of emergency.


                                Mike..... as from Monday all Travel routes to the UK are either closed or requiring a 10 day quarantine, and even a 5 day quarantine on entry even if returning a negative result for Covid. EU Lorry drivers have some kind of faster route in/out.

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