Why is Bruce an Exception?

[Cow Poke]

Oops.

http://www.eonline.com/shows/i_am_ca...y-dark-moments

Watching that video of a man pretending to be a woman speaking in a very obvious man's voice...... It's just WEIRD! I mean.... It's like "circus freak" stuff.... Bruce has turned himself into a public spectacle.

Honestly, you think this is a GOOD thing?

[fm93]

Oops.

http://www.eonline.com/shows/i_am_ca...y-dark-moments

[Cow Poke]

I didn't watch any episodes, but for what it's worth, Jenner supposedly confessed to having had suicidal thoughts.

"I have been in my house, with a gun and said, ‘Let's just end it right here. No more pain. No more suffering."

What's the deal with hyperlinking this non-link?

[Cow Poke]

I was once a man stuck inside a woman's body............

But then my mother gave birth.

That's bad. Really REALLY bad.

[Darth Ovious]

I was once a man stuck inside a woman's body............














But then my mother gave birth.






I'll get my coat.

[fm93]

I didn't watch any episodes, but for what it's worth, Jenner supposedly confessed to having had suicidal thoughts.

"I have been in my house, with a gun and said, ‘Let's just end it right here. No more pain. No more suffering."

[Cow Poke]

Brave Bruce is Bombing....

Source: NYPost

Barely two weeks since its debut, E!’s “I Am Cait” is already in serious trouble.

While tabloid interest in and social media chatter about Caitlyn Jenner may remain strong, actual viewer numbers are down — way down! — suggesting that TV’s great transgender hope might actually be a dud on arrival.

The problem with “I Am Cait” isn’t its lack of ambition. If anything, the show suffers from an overdose of the stuff. In less than 60 minutes of screen time, “Cait” shifts from “Real Housewives”-type fluff to Lifetime-like melodrama to “60 Minutes”-style seriousness. There are makeup shots and bikini drama and seemingly endless glasses of Champagne — along with occasional Kardashian, Kanye and junior Jenner cameos thrown in. But mostly, it’s all Cait all the time — awkwardly (and, yes, bravely) negotiating her late-in-life rebirth for all of America to see.

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[rogue06]

Exactly. Better to treat the condition that enable it.

"than" enable it

[rogue06]

They are...



I feel like I have to put this disclaimer in every post, but I deeply sympathize with people with gender dysphoria. It just seems like it would be more fruitful to find out the neurological/psychological source of the problem and fix that rather than perform Frankenstein-esque medical procedures that apparently don't resolve the issue, for whatever reason.

Exactly. Better to treat the condition that enable it.

[Cow Poke]

They are...



I feel like I have to put this disclaimer in every post, but I deeply sympathize with people with gender dysphoria. It just seems like it would be more fruitful to find out the neurological/psychological source of the problem and fix that rather than perform Frankenstein-esque medical procedures that apparently don't resolve the issue, for whatever reason.

Yeah!

[hamster]

No, it doesn't.
don't you think that doctors around the world might have spotted this if it were true and stopped actually performing sex-change procedures???

They are...

We at Johns Hopkins University—which in the 1960s was the first American medical center to venture into "sex-reassignment surgery"—launched a study in the 1970s comparing the outcomes of transgendered people who had the surgery with the outcomes of those who did not. Most of the surgically treated patients described themselves as "satisfied" by the results, but their subsequent psycho-social adjustments were no better than those who didn't have the surgery. And so at Hopkins we stopped doing sex-reassignment surgery, since producing a "satisfied" but still troubled patient seemed an inadequate reason for surgically amputating normal organs.

It now appears that our long-ago decision was a wise one. A 2011 study at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden produced the most illuminating results yet regarding the transgendered, evidence that should give advocates pause. The long-term study—up to 30 years—followed 324 people who had sex-reassignment surgery. The study revealed that beginning about 10 years after having the surgery, the transgendered began to experience increasing mental difficulties. Most shockingly, their suicide mortality rose almost 20-fold above the comparable nontransgender population. This disturbing result has as yet no explanation but probably reflects the growing sense of isolation reported by the aging transgendered after surgery. The high suicide rate certainly challenges the surgery prescription.

I feel like I have to put this disclaimer in every post, but I deeply sympathize with people with gender dysphoria. It just seems like it would be more fruitful to find out the neurological/psychological source of the problem and fix that rather than perform Frankenstein-esque medical procedures that apparently don't resolve the issue, for whatever reason.

[Starlight]

Just nitpicking but it says their risk of suicide goes up after the gender changing but not before.

No, it doesn't.

It says that transexuals are at a higher risk of suicide both before and after medical sex-change, compared to the general population. This would seem to be unsurprising given the prejudice they are likely to experience.

This study did not compare suicide risk of transsexuals before and after medical sex-change. However it reports a previous meta-analysis of the effects of such medical interventions, which found that 80% of transsexual people reported subjective improvement to their quality of life due to undergoing a medical sex-change procedure.

The widespread nonsense propaganda among conservatives that medical sex-change procedures are bad for the people having them is bizarre... don't you think that doctors around the world might have spotted this if it were true and stopped actually performing sex-change procedures??? The consistent finding has been that medical sex-change procedures significantly improve the quality of life of people undergoing them, with 80% of people across all relevant studies reporting improved quality of life after the procedures. That's why doctors do them. What this study points out is that even after the procedure, and even with that improved quality of life, these patients are still at higher risk than the general population, and so further support and care is recommended. Again, this is probably primarily a result of social prejudice.

[fm93]

As of 2011,

This study found substantially higher rates of overall mortality, death from cardiovascular disease and suicide, suicide attempts, and psychiatric hospitalisations in sex-reassigned transsexual individuals compared to a healthy control population.

It doesn't appear to be comparing them to other transgender individuals.

[Cow Poke]

As of 2011,

This study found substantially higher rates of overall mortality, death from cardiovascular disease and suicide, suicide attempts, and psychiatric hospitalisations in sex-reassigned transsexual individuals compared to a healthy control population.

And I think that it's reasonable to expect this will only get worse as there is less stigma (now that Brave Bruce championed the cause) of doing the surgery.

[rogue06]

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