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Deeper Waters is founded on the belief that the Christian community has long been in the shallow end of Christianity while there are treasures of the deep waiting to be discovered. Too many in the shallow end are not prepared when they go out beyond those waters and are quickly devoured by sharks. We wish to aid Christians to equip them to navigate the deeper waters of the ocean of truth and come up with treasure in the end.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThat's an awful lot of words for having said nothing of substance, fm.Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17
I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer
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Originally posted by fm93 View PostSo you think finding the energy to carry on day after day in the face of crippling distress, and undergoing an extensive operation that changes almost everything physical about you, is done on a casual whim?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYou can be such a drama queen.
But really, would you mind explaining why you disagree with it?Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17
I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer
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Originally posted by fm93 View PostThat's an awful lot of words for having said nothing of substance.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by fm93 View PostSo you think finding the energy to carry on day after day in the face of crippling distress,
and undergoing an extensive operation
that changes almost everything physical about you,
is done on a casual whim?
The dude was rich and famous - he has his admirers and his detractors. He was a world class athlete, for cryin' out loud, and you make him sound like some frail little wimpy child. He made a choice that involved DRASTIC measures, and, personally, I anticipate he still won't find peace, because he's looking in the wrong place.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Postyou forgot the agony of defeat and the heartbreak of psoriasis.
An ELECTIVE surgery (or surgeries) for which, no doubt, copious amounts of sedatives and anesthesia were employed.
I'm fine the way I am, though I could afford to lose a few pounds.
See, this is the kind of goofist nonsense that causes my somewhat flippant responses to your drama queen style posts. NOBODY said, or even implied that he did it "on a whim".Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17
I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer
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Originally posted by fm93 View PostActually, that essentially is what you're implying when you refer to Jenner as "a man who got fake boobs and put on a dress."The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by fm93 View Post...but saying there was NO bravery involved definitely seems like an unwarranted conclusion.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by whag View PostIn what way was it brave?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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I'm tired of the suicide card being played. Yes, suicide rates are too high among people dealing with these issues. It does not logically follow at all that this means that the solution is just to affirm their feelings on gender."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by fm93 View PostGiven that 40% of people with gender dysphoria are suicidal, I think we can be reasonably certain that the distress experienced is indeed crippling and devastating. I believe you're grossly trivializing it.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostI'm tired of the suicide card being played. Yes, suicide rates are too high among people dealing with these issues. It does not logically follow at all that this means that the solution is just to affirm their feelings on gender.
Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostHistory reveals, as has been documented in at least one of these threads, that these gender imitation surgeries do not eliminate the distress.Last edited by fm93; 07-18-2015, 06:20 PM.Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17
I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer
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