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  • #46
    So, whatever "courage" award it was that he was given, it was amazing to watch all those adoring fans listen to a man with fake boobs speak in a man's voice while wearing a dress, pretending he's a woman.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      So, whatever "courage" award it was that he was given, it was amazing to watch all those adoring fans listen to a man with fake boobs speak in a man's voice while wearing a dress, pretending he's a woman.
      Even more amazing you tuned in to see it. I didn't peg you as the type to be lured by sensationalism.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by whag View Post
        Even more amazing you tuned in to see it.
        Well, it MIGHT be amazing that I tuned in to see it, if that actually happened. I was trying to fix my DirecTV remote, and accidentally came across it.

        I didn't peg you as the type to be lured by sensationalism.
        And I didn't peg you as the type to make a thoughtful post, so we're good!
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          Well, it MIGHT be amazing that I tuned in to see it, if that actually happened. I was trying to fix my DirecTV remote, and accidentally came across it.
          You accidentally came across it.


          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          And I didn't peg you as the type to make a thoughtful post, so we're good!
          You resurrected a thread to say you find transexuals weird.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by whag View Post
            You accidentally came across it.
            Yes, that's a fact.

            You resurrected a thread to say you find transexuals weird.
            No, I 'resurrected a thread' to say what I said in post #46. I thought the audience was even weirder than Bruce.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Apologiaphoenix View Post
              My wife shared on her Facebook a meme of some soldiers going to say they were going to congratulate Bruce Jenner for his courage, obviously said in sarcasm.
              I think y'all should make up your minds to either stop attacking Jenner for coming out, or stop attacking claims that it took courage.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                So, whatever "courage" award it was that he was given, it was amazing to watch all those adoring fans listen to a man with fake boobs speak in a man's voice while wearing a dress, pretending he's a woman.
                Seems like the person who downplayed the courage aspect the most was Jenner, actually.

                You know, it is an honor to have the word ďcourageĒ associated with my life, but on this night another word comes to mind, and that is ďfortunate.Ē I owe a lot to sports. Itís showed me the world. Itís given me an identity. If someone wanted to bully me, well you know what, I was the MVP of the football teamóthat just wasnít going to be a problem. And the same goes tonight. If you want to call me names, make jokes, doubt my intentions, go ahead. Because the reality is, I can take it. But for the thousands of kids out there coming to terms with being true to who they are, they shouldnít have to take it. So for the people out there wondering what this is all about, whether itís about courage or controversy or publicity, well, Iíll tell you what itís all about: Itís about what happens from here. Itís not just about one person. Itís about thousands of people. Itís not just about me, itís about all of us accepting one another. Weíre all different. Thatís not a bad thing. Thatís a good thing. And while it may not easy to get past the things you [donít always] understand, I want to prove that it is absolutely possible if we only do it together.
                Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17

                I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by fm93 View Post
                  Seems like the person who downplayed the courage aspect the most was Jenner, actually.
                  Yes, even he realized that calling it "courage" was stupid.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by lao tzu View Post
                    I think y'all should make up your minds to either stop attacking Jenner for coming out, or stop attacking claims that it took courage.
                    Why?
                    Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      Yes, that's a fact.



                      No, I 'resurrected a thread' to say what I said in post #46. I thought the audience was even weirder than Bruce.
                      Nice try. No, you don't think the audience was weirder than a man who decided he wanted breasts. At worse, they simply overestimate the bravery it takes to change one's identity so drastically (which is understandable). At worse they're overly supportive and gushing, but few of them if any would go to the extremes of surgically impersonating the opposite gender.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by whag View Post
                        Nice try.
                        Why do you have to be such a jackwagon? What am I "trying"? I try to treat you with respect, but you make it so difficult.

                        No, you don't think the audience was weirder than a man who decided he wanted breasts.
                        How do YOU know what I think? Yes, it's weird that a man wants to have breasts and wear a dress and appear on the cover of a fashion magazine. I think it's just as weird, if not moreso, that a bunch of people would sit there and get sucked into the weirdness as though this was something noble or honorable.

                        At worse, they simply overestimate the bravery it takes to change one's identity so drastically (which is understandable). At worse they're overly supportive and gushing, but few of them if any would go to the extremes of surgically impersonating the opposite gender.
                        So what?
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #57
                          Bruce... meet Mick

                          not-a-lady-o.gif
                          That's what
                          - She

                          Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                          - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                          I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                          - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            Why do you have to be such a jackwagon? What am I "trying"? I try to treat you with respect, but you make it so difficult.



                            How do YOU know what I think? Yes, it's weird that a man wants to have breasts and wear a dress and appear on the cover of a fashion magazine. I think it's just as weird, if not moreso, that a bunch of people would sit there and get sucked into the weirdness as though this was something noble or honorable.



                            So what?
                            I think they were more acknowledging his athletic achievements. There was probably also a bit of acknowledging that reversing masculinity isn't an easy or fun thing to do. People don't just decide to be transformed into a girl for kicks. For instance, I doubt whether you were ever tempted to undergo such surgery. That usually involves deep confusion. It's a teleology/PoE problem, really, which is probably why conservative Christians can't process it.

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                            • #59
                              It's not fair Bruce Jenner and his girlfriend (who used to be a man also) are prettier than me -_-;

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by toodlesdoodles View Post
                                It's not fair Bruce Jenner and his girlfriend (who used to be a man also) are prettier than me -_-;
                                I've seen a picture of you. That's simply not true.

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