Different approaches may work differently for different people (enough differents in that sentence?). As a non Christian I simply ignored that sort of street preachers. I ignored anyone who approached me with the gospel message. I sort of sneered at them internally. It was not until a man both shared and treated me like a friend, accepting my rejection of the message, and just acted as a friend. He helped me see that Christians were not all just hypocritical idiots. He opened my life to the first stages of being willing to submit to Christ. He did not really teach me much in the way of theology, he was just a friend and encourager. When I did finally come to understand what it was all about he was the first one I wanted to share with.
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One example I'm thinking of that shouldn't be controversial was when I was in college, a man from Michigan who would travel to a campus, hold up signs that said "All homos go to hell", then leave for another college the next day. In several years of ministry, he claimed to have earned 40 converts, and I doubt he was discipling any of them if he was moving on to a new town every day. With his needlessly incendiary approach, I have no doubt he had turned off far more than 40 people to Christianity needlessly.
There wasn't much of an intellectual approach either. Somebody asked him a gotcha question about where Cain got his wife, and he didn't seem able to answer."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostOne example I'm thinking of that shouldn't be controversial was when I was in college, a man from Michigan who would travel to a campus, hold up signs that said "All homos go to hell", then leave for another college the next day. In several years of ministry, he claimed to have earned 40 converts, and I doubt he was discipling any of them if he was moving on to a new town every day. With his needlessly incendiary approach, I have no doubt he had turned off far more than 40 people to Christianity needlessly.
There wasn't much of an intellectual approach either. Somebody asked him a gotcha question about where Cain got his wife, and he didn't seem able to answer.
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Originally posted by jpholding View PostI wouldn't guess either of us is too quick on the draw. I'd suspect if there were more pastors like you:
1) Nick and I would have a lot more teaching engagements.
2) Joyce Meyer would be washing graffiti off public buildings for her living.
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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View PostI wish more people were like CP.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Apologiaphoenix View PostAnd then what?"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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