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  • Why Google Research Is A Problem

    Could it be you don't know as much as you think you know? https://deeperwaters.wordpress.com/2...-is-a-problem/

  • #2
    It really depends on what you want to know. If you're programmer, engineer you can make do with Google (aside from getting practical experience by actually building stuff) for just about anything that doesn't involve closed-source references. If you're a historian or an amateur philosopher, you'll never be able to do more than merely getting your feet wet in my humble opinion.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
      It really depends on what you want to know. If you're programmer, engineer you can make do with Google (aside from getting practical experience by actually building stuff) for just about anything that doesn't involve closed-source references. If you're a historian or an amateur philosopher, you'll never be able to do more than merely getting your feet wet in my humble opinion.
      Google references when used properly can source first quality references in any discipline. It can on the other hand reveal questionable, inaccurate and bogus sources. For example: http://plato.stanford.edu/ is an excellent philosophy source available in google search.
      Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
      Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
      But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

      go with the flow the river knows . . .

      Frank

      I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
        It really depends on what you want to know. If you're programmer, engineer you can make do with Google (aside from getting practical experience by actually building stuff) for just about anything that doesn't involve closed-source references. If you're a historian or an amateur philosopher, you'll never be able to do more than merely getting your feet wet in my humble opinion.
        In such cases it is more likely your skill as a Boolean searcher than anything to do with Google per se. I was using DIALOG databases in the early 90s with search engines that worked the same way. It's only as good as the end user.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
          For example: http://plato.stanford.edu/ is an excellent philosophy source available in google search.
          It's not "available in" Google Search, it is found by using it, and would survive just as well without ham hands like you using Google to find it.

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          • #6
            Empowerment without the capacity or understanding to use that power is always dangerous.

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            • #7
              What, no reference to speedsurfer?

              ETA: Also, your examples are not unique to Google. They're examples of sloppy reading, not sloppy source selection.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                What, no reference to speedsurfer?

                ETA: Also, your examples are not unique to Google. They're examples of sloppy reading, not sloppy source selection.
                True, but Google unfortunately is one of the most common offenders.

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                • #9
                  I suggest:
                  1) use the smilie,
                  2) then type "'Puffer fish' scholarship."
                  The greater number of laws . . . , the more thieves . . . there will be. ---- Lao-Tzu

                  [T]he truth I’m after and the truth never harmed anyone. What harms us is to persist in self-deceit and ignorance -— Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

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                  • #10
                    In my current area of interest (biblical studies), I heartily agree. I did a group project in seminary where we were to find background of a given NT passage, and a Google search for that passage would reveal loads of non-scholarly research. In many cases, these are going to simply perpetuate false understandings of passages. I'm making this example up, but you might find blogs that claim that Jesus was referring to camels going through a literal "Needle Gate" (an urban legend). Mark Goodacre's NT Gateway is a much better place to start.
                    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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