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Deeper Waters Podcast 11/29/2014
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This is a particular matchup I've been hoping for for a long time. Chris can make as solid of an exegetical case as anyone out there, but I'm looking forward to seeing how it holds up against JPH's particular approach which is not as strictly exegetical. I have high hopes that this debate will do more than go over the same few prooftexts both sides usually use in such debates. I also like that neither debater has any time for emotional arguments over the issue.Last edited by KingsGambit; 11-28-2014, 09:48 PM."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostThis is a particular matchup I've been hoping for for a long time. Chris can make as solid of an exegetical case as anyone out there, but I'm looking forward to seeing how it holds up against JPH's particular approach which is not as strictly exegetical. I have high hopes that this debate will do more than go over the same few prooftexts both sides usually use in such debates. I also like that neither debater has any time for emotional arguments over the issue.But I'd call my approach a combo of social and exegetical. I had forgotten I'd been on a podcast with Date back in February. Unfortunately, with 6 guys talking and only 1.25 hours of air time (.5 of which I lost because they told me the wrong air time) we really didn't get to interact. I'm not even sure he'd find my approach objectionable. It's not too far off from the views of some of his contributors to Rethinking Hell.
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