R.I.P. Farewell to someone who did so well in making us laugh. http://deeperwaters.wordpress.com/20...obin-williams/
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Originally posted by Apologiaphoenix View PostR.I.P.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I don't like the saying R.I.P. It smacks of what Roger Olson would call "folk religion". (For what it's worth, I don't think it's entirely clear what the intermediate state consists of.)"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostI understand the sentiment, but I don't think anyone who commits suicide finds the peace they're looking for.
As someone who's suffered from depression and anxiety issues for all of my life, I can tell you that at the lowest points, your emotions can strangle your rationality and common sense... and my personal experiences sound like they are nothing compared to what RW suffered with throughout most if not all of his life. It's impossible to know, of course, but he was likely not in a rational state of mind at the end, perhaps even under the (delusional) belief that his absence would actually be a good thing for not just himself, but his friends and family as well.
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I'm not sure why he's receiving so many accolades from Christians. I'm not saying he's worthy of reproach, but what did he do to progress the gospel of Christ that deserves so much attention? If anything, it's a testament to the sorry shape of having all the fame and fortune one could ever want as defined by the world's standards.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostI'm not sure why he's receiving so many accolades from Christians. I'm not saying he's worthy of reproach, but what did he do to progress the gospel of Christ that deserves so much attention? If anything, it's a testament to the sorry shape of having fame and fortune as defined by the world's standards."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostAFAICT it's nothing to do with progressing the gospel but rather having brought joy to people's lives.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostOkay, but not everyone found him funny. That's just a matter of taste. I found him rather obnoxious, though I did like some of his serious films. Don't get me wrong, I'm not condemning the guy -- however, I do think the focus should instead be on the tragedy of it and what that means on a spiritual level. There are celebrities whose lives ended in the same tragedy, yet they didn't receive this much attention, so I'm just not sure why the accolades are being heaped on him, particularly on this forum."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostI don't like the saying R.I.P. It smacks of what Roger Olson would call "folk religion". (For what it's worth, I don't think it's entirely clear what the intermediate state consists of.)Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostI don't think there's anything wrong with the saying. How is it "folk religion"? The sentiment is common to pretty much all of Christianity."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostTo me, there seems to be an implication that all people have the same experience post-mortem given that the phrase is generally used for Christians and non-Christians alike... and it seems to carry a great certainty regarding a conscious but inactive intermediate state. Maybe I'm overthinking it, I don't know.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThe sad thing is that he's probably not making anybody laugh in eternity.Originally posted by seanD View PostOkay, but not everyone found him funny. That's just a matter of taste. I found him rather obnoxious, though I did like some of his serious films. Don't get me wrong, I'm not condemning the guy -- however, I do think the focus should instead be on the tragedy of it and what that means on a spiritual level.
"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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This guy is getting a lot of grief for this post, I really don't see the problem - do you?
he death of Robin Williams is significant not because he was famous, but because he was human, and not just because he left this world, but particularly because he apparently chose to leave it.
Suicide.
A terrible, monstrous atrocity. It disturbs me in a deep, visceral, indescribable way. Of course it disturbs most people, I would assume. Indeed, we should fear the day when we wake up and decide we aren’t disturbed by it anymore.
So I’m just like you, then, because I can’t stomach the thought of it. I’ve seen it in the neighborhoods where I’ve lived and the schools that I’ve attended. I’ve seen it in my family. I’ve known adults and kids who’ve done it. I’ve seen it on the news and read about it in books, but I can’t comprehend it. The complete, total, absolute rejection of life. The final refusal to see the worth in anything, or the beauty, or the reason, or the point, or the hope. The willingness to saddle your family with the pain and misery and anger that will now plague them for the rest of their lives.
It’s a tragic choice, truly, but it is a choice, and we have to remember that. Your suicide doesn’t happen to you; it doesn’t attack you like cancer or descend upon you like a tornado. It is a decision made by an individual. A bad decision. Always a bad decision.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostThis guy is getting a lot of grief for this post, I really don't see the problem - do you?
http://themattwalshblog.com/2014/08/...uZqP5Idohhv.99
C Michael Patton from Reclaiming The Mind ministries has written about in a number of times in talking about his sister's battle with depression and eventual suicide as well as his own battles with depression
http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blo...ry/depression/
http://www.depression.org.nz/helpingothersLast edited by Raphael; 08-13-2014, 03:14 PM.Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.
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