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Deeper Waters is founded on the belief that the Christian community has long been in the shallow end of Christianity while there are treasures of the deep waiting to be discovered. Too many in the shallow end are not prepared when they go out beyond those waters and are quickly devoured by sharks. We wish to aid Christians to equip them to navigate the deeper waters of the ocean of truth and come up with treasure in the end.
We also wish to give special aid to those often neglected, that is, the disabled community. This is especially so since our founders are both on the autism spectrum and have a special desire to reach those on that spectrum. While they are a special emphasis, we seek to help others with any disability realize that God can use them and that they are as the Psalmist says, fearfully and wonderfully made.
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Better to illuminate than merely to shine, to deliver to others contemplated truths than merely to contemplate.
-Thomas Aquinas
I love to travel, But hate to arrive.
-Hernando Cortez
What is the good of experience if you do not reflect?
-Frederick 2, Holy Roman Emperor
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Originally posted by Apologiaphoenix View PostAn atheist on Amazon once recommended I read Sagan's "Demon-Haunted World."
I read it and while I disagreed with a lot in it, I found that I liked Sagan's writing and found he would be a likable fellow and not at all like the new atheists of today.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostHis wife (Ann Druyan), OTOH...
It's one of those stories that makes me hold out hope.
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I find it incredible that people can believe the universe popped into existence out of nothing, from nothing and for absolutely no reason or cause, and they have no evidence at all - just theories that can't be tested.
I think it is much harder to believe that then "God did it"
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostDon't see a problem with it, other than the ridiculous hair.βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI find it incredible that people can believe the universe popped into existence out of nothing, from nothing and for absolutely no reason or cause, and they have no evidence at all - just theories that can't be tested.
I think it is much harder to believe that then "God did it"
Announcer:Welcome to another exciting edition of Cosmos! Now let's dive right into our most intriguing findings as we unlock the mysteries of our multiverse. So without further ado - Sparko, if you will..
Sparko: *Ahem* Yeah well basically all this physical stuff out there *Ahem* God did it.
Announcer: ..And that wraps up another episode! Please join us next week for another exciting edition of Cosmos!
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I always thought Carl Sagan's tussle with Apple (over an internal programming code name, no less) made him look bad:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_I...ith_Carl_Sagan"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostI always thought Carl Sagan's tussle with Apple (over an internal programming code name, no less) made him look bad:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_I...ith_Carl_Sagan
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI find it incredible that people can believe the universe popped into existence out of nothing, from nothing and for absolutely no reason or cause, and they have no evidence at all - just theories that can't be tested.
I think it is much harder to believe that then "God did it"I'm not here anymore.
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Originally posted by Scrawly View Post
Announcer:Welcome to another exciting edition of Cosmos! Now let's dive right into our most intriguing findings as we unlock the mysteries of our multiverse. So without further ado - Sparko, if you will..
Sparko: *Ahem* Yeah well basically all this physical stuff out there *Ahem* God did it.
Announcer: ..And that wraps up another episode! Please join us next week for another exciting edition of Cosmos!Better to illuminate than merely to shine, to deliver to others contemplated truths than merely to contemplate.
-Thomas Aquinas
I love to travel, But hate to arrive.
-Hernando Cortez
What is the good of experience if you do not reflect?
-Frederick 2, Holy Roman Emperor
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Originally posted by Scrawly View Post
Announcer:Welcome to another exciting edition of Cosmos! Now let's dive right into our most intriguing findings as we unlock the mysteries of our multiverse. So without further ado - Sparko, if you will..
Sparko: *Ahem* Yeah well basically all this physical stuff out there *Ahem* God did it.
Announcer: ..And that wraps up another episode! Please join us next week for another exciting edition of Cosmos!
Scrawly: Nothing. There was no cause.
Announcer: So how come there is a universe?
Scrawly: dunno. It just appeared out of nothing.
Announcer: nothing? What do you mean?
Scrawly: well some people think it was caused by vacuum fluctuations...
Announcer: Isn't vacuum nothing?
Scrawly: Yes, that is why I said the universe appeared out of nothing.
Announcer: But before the universe was here there wasn't even a vacuum, right? because there was no space, no time, nada.
Scrawly: uh... well, strings! yeah strings did it. or maybe branes.
Announcer: what evidence do we have of these strings or branes?
Scrawly: evidence? how can there be evidence of something outside of the universe that existed before the universe existed? There is no evidence. You just have to have faith and stuff.
Announcer: riiiight. I thought you said there wasn't any cause?
Scrawly: There isn't. I mean.. well... shut up!!!
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostAnnouncer: So what caused the universe to be here?
Scrawly: Nothing. There was no cause.
Announcer: So how come there is a universe?
Scrawly: dunno. It just appeared out of nothing.
Announcer: nothing? What do you mean?
Scrawly: well some people think it was caused by vacuum fluctuations...
Announcer: Isn't vacuum nothing?
Scrawly: Yes, that is why I said the universe appeared out of nothing.
Announcer: But before the universe was here there wasn't even a vacuum, right? because there was no space, no time, nada.
Scrawly: uh... well, strings! yeah strings did it. or maybe branes.
Announcer: what evidence do we have of these strings or branes?
Scrawly: evidence? how can there be evidence of something outside of the universe that existed before the universe existed? There is no evidence. You just have to have faith and stuff.
Announcer: riiiight. I thought you said there wasn't any cause?
Scrawly: There isn't. I mean.. well... shut up!!!
I simply found your comment to be skirting far too close to the God-of-the-gaps and I thought I would call you out on it.
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