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God and the Origin Of Life

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  • God and the Origin Of Life

    Does God's existence hinge on the question?

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    What does the origin of life have to do with God? Letís plunge into the Deeper Waters and find out.

    Yesterday while surfing through Facebook, I see someone make a post about the origin of life and said something about how it would be good to go ahead and see if we can make life out of non-life so we can finally settle the God debate once and for all. I really think itís sad that anyone would think such a thing. It would be sad enough if an atheist thought that would settle the debate, but it would be far worse if a Christian thought it would.

    Ultimately, if that is what you think, God is just a placeholder for you when you have a question that canít be answered, and that being a scientific question, and then once it gets answered, well, so much for God. It is essentially God-of-the-Gaps thinking. If you really think such a way, here are some other truths you must already think.

    You must think the universe came into existence by its own power.

    If you think the universe is eternal in some form or another even if a multiverse, you must think this whole system not just came into power, but also exists by its own power. The universe needs nothing outside of itself not just for coming into existence, but for existing as well.

    You must think that once life began, then thatís enough for evolution, which if youíre a Christian and arguing this you likely donít believe in, could operate from its own power from that point.

    You must believe that either good and evil are not objective then or if they are, that somehow those eternal realities exist in a purely materialistic universe.

    You must have a belief about human consciousness that can be explained in an entirely materialistic universe.

    You must believe there is a non-theistic metaphysic that explains the existence of those realities as well as others like triangularity, beauty, numbers if you think they are real, and existence itself.

    You must believe that Jesus, at this point if He even existed, was just a man and nothing about Him was deity whatsoever. You must believe that the event that is claimed to be His resurrection can be explained in purely materialistic terms. You must believe that the Bible may be interesting reading, but it cannot be considered Scripture in any way.

    All of this will follow if you place the case for the existence of God on the origin of life.

    Now does this mean that the origin of life can be explained without Godís direct intervention? Not for me to say. Even if scientists can do this someday, there is still everything else. This is the benefit of not marrying your worldview to any scientific claim whatsoever. He who marries the spirit of the age is destined to be a widow.

    If youíre a Christian, please give God a bigger place in your life than this. There are quite likely aspects I left off of this list. Thatís okay. Itís not meant to be exhaustive, but it should be enough to get you thinking.

    In Christ,
    Nick Peters

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    But if scientists created life from nonlife, wouldn't that still invole intelligent designers? And they would be copying from something that already exists, not from scratch.
    If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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