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Book Plunge: Obscure Mormon Doctrine

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  • Book Plunge: Obscure Mormon Doctrine

    An excellent resource!

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    What do I think of Chris Jensen's book? Let's plunge into the Deeper Waters and find out.

    I'm actually going to be recommending a Mormon book to you. It's not a book about something unrelated that just happens to be by a Mormon. It is a book by a Mormon talking about Mormonism and not even speaking opposed to Mormonism.

    I found Obscure Mormon Doctrine when browsing for material on Eternal Progression. I looked at the reviews and I saw one person saying "I'm afraid you've written something that will very easily be used against us." That was good enough for me. It didn't cost a lot so I picked it up immediately.

    Indeed, I think that was correct. Jensen goes through forty different subjects and not only does he explain them, he gives references to them. These are often times obscure doctrines. It was quite helpful when I had Mormons visiting me when I gave them from their own sources thinks to Jensen's book exactly where Mormons say that the virgin birth (Which I do affirm) of Jesus was not a miracle as it is for us, but rather God the Father naturally having sex with Mary.

    Also extremely helpful will be the chapter on Mormonism and race. The Mormon Church had a big problem that still hangs over their heads in the past with the way they treated the black community. The curse of Cain and the curse of the Lamanites was black skin for each. For a long time, black people were not allowed to hold the priesthood in Mormon circles.

    Now that has changed, but it was not immediately after the Civil Rights Act. That change didn't happen until 1978. Fortunately, Jensen gives the information on where this was said. It's all very easy to find.

    Naturally, there's something on polygamy as well. Again, it seems convenient that what was supposed to be an eternal principle was changed the moment the government started to come in. By the way, pro tip for anyone. If you're following someone who claims to be a prophet and the prophet gets information directly from God about his sex life that is directly beneficial to said prophet, you might want to reconsider your allegiance.

    Another surprising chapter for me to find was the chapter on the temples. Not only does he talk about the temples, he actually goes into great detail describing the rituals that can take place in the temple. As if that wasn't astounding enough, there is open admission that these come from the Masonic rituals to which Joseph Smith just thought that they had remnants still of the true religion to some extent in them. All of this is impressive to read in a Mormon book.

    So if you're interested in doing evangelism to Mormons, I really encourage you to pick up this book immediately. All the chapters are short and you can go right to the one that you need and every claim that you want to check on is referenced. I highly anticipate this becoming a new sourcebook for Christians dealing with Mormons.

    In Christ,
    Nick Peters
    (And I affirm the virgin birth)
    What do I think of Chris Jensen’s book? Let’s plunge into the Deeper Waters and find out. I’m actually going to be recommending a Mormon book to you. It’s not a book about something unrelated that just happens to be by a Mormon. It is a book by a Mormon talking about Mormonism and not … Continue reading Book Plunge: Obscure Mormon Doctrine

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    I remember the debates we used to have with Mormons here on Tweb. I think we actually brought up those same doctrines you mention above.

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      There's a bunch of oversimplifications in this book IMO. Mormon Apologists easily handwave those obscure teachings as nothing more than a human interpretation and not official doctrine. Their "continuing revelation" slippery slope is used deftly to deflect many of these proclamations. You have to not only rely on their old speeches and non-canonical writings but know their canonical things.
      That's what
      - She

      Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
      - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

      I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
      - Stephen R. Donaldson

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        For a while there, my wife and I had a very active ministry to Mormons, but that seems to have totally dried up - just like the Mormon Forum here on Tweb.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
          There's a bunch of oversimplifications in this book IMO. Mormon Apologists easily handwave those obscure teachings as nothing more than a human interpretation and not official doctrine. Their "continuing revelation" slippery slope is used deftly to deflect many of these proclamations. You have to not only rely on their old speeches and non-canonical writings but know their canonical things.
          That could be, but I think for many Christians who are engaging with missionaries that come to them, this can be a helpful resource.

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