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It's The End. So What?

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  • It's The End. So What?

    Does the end really make a difference?

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    What difference does it matter if we're in the end times? Let's plunge into the Deeper Waters and find out.

    I'm driving to church yesterday morning and I have the radio on and at the end of one show, one of the speakers comes back to talk about, what else? Biblical prophecy. As an Orthodox Preterist, I groan at this but brace myself for whatever is coming. The speaker goes on to talk about another example of how we're in the end times. What is it now? Famine. All around the world there's famine and we're also seeing food plants being burned down.

    I'm not going to dispute that that is happening. However, if you went to any time and wanted to pick out something and say it's something in prophecy, you could do it. Most every generation have insisted that they were the one and when a new one comes along, well everyone else was wrong, but we're right this time!

    Yet as I thought about it this morning, I wondered why do people even bother? What do they hope to accomplish? Oh! This battle in the Middle East is a fulfillment of prophecy! Okay. So what if you're right? What can you do about it? What are you going to do about it? You have your marching orders, the Great Commission. We are told Jesus is with us until the end of the age. When that is is none of our business.

    So why is it that people today make such a big deal about it?

    As an Orthodox Preterist, I just hear what is going on and think "What am I to do about this?" Some things I could do something about. Some things I can't do anything about. If I can do something, then I should try to do what I can. If I can't do anything, then I pray and leave it in the hands of God.

    If you believe in prophecy in the sense of a more dispensational or futurist position, then something to keep in mind is prophecy is going to happen whatever you do. I find it fascinating to think about all these people who have been trying to breed a red heifer. After all, if God is going to fulfill prophecy, then He needs your help to do it.

    Of course, one of the biggest dangers in this is that too often when people act like prophecy experts, they are wrong every time and they embarrass themselves and Christianity as a whole. Would that people who did this would spend as much time studying something like the resurrection as they do end-times prophecy. Note that if you are someone who studies both, I will disagree with you on end-times prophecy still if you are a futurist of any sort, but you are not in mind here.

    Ultimately, the main point is that we have the same marching orders regardless. We are to do the Great Commission. We are to love the Lord our God and we are to love our neighbor. Everything else in the hands of God and God will do that.

    In Christ,
    Nick Peters
    (And I affirm the virgin birth)
    What difference does it matter if we’re in the end times? Let’s plunge into the Deeper Waters and find out. I’m driving to church yesterday morning and I have the radio on and at the end of one show, one of the speakers comes back to talk about, what else? Biblical prophecy. As an Orthodox … Continue reading It’s The End. So What?

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    I believe we will all see Jesus soon enough. Either when he comes back to us, or we die and go to him. So the end times is always with us one way or another.

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      I was watching a video from Gavin Ortlund on Youtube today (who is definitely a sound teacher who doesn't deserve to be associated with any of this nonsense), and the recommended video that had 12,000 hits was apparently about how the government had a plan to cover up that the Rapture was happening. I was afraid to click on it out of being disgusted, and didn't.
      "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
        I believe we will all see Jesus soon enough. Either when he comes back to us, or we die and go to him. So the end times is always with us one way or another.
        People have been claiming that for nearly two thousand years and yet still [like the refugees in Casablanca] you "wait and wait and wait".
        "It ain't necessarily so
        The things that you're liable
        To read in the Bible
        It ain't necessarily so
        ."

        Sportin' Life
        Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

          People have been claiming that for nearly two thousand years and yet still [like the refugees in Casablanca] you "wait and wait and wait".
          Did you even read what I wrote? Apparently not.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sparko View Post

            Did you even read what I wrote? Apparently not.
            I was commenting on the delays to the Parousia. Still you are all waiting.
            "It ain't necessarily so
            The things that you're liable
            To read in the Bible
            It ain't necessarily so
            ."

            Sportin' Life
            Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

              I was commenting on the delays to the Parousia. Still you are all waiting.
              I am not waiting. We all will meet Jesus when we go to him. You included. Are you ready?

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              • #8
                And I contend the event described in the Olivet Discourse already happened.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                  I am not waiting. We all will meet Jesus when we go to him. You included. Are you ready?
                  What would we find to discuss?
                  "It ain't necessarily so
                  The things that you're liable
                  To read in the Bible
                  It ain't necessarily so
                  ."

                  Sportin' Life
                  Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                    What would we find to discuss?
                    You could tell Him how wrong He is.

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      You could tell Him how wrong He is.
                      It could be an interesting exchange. To quote Woody Allen "I hope he has a good excuse".
                      "It ain't necessarily so
                      The things that you're liable
                      To read in the Bible
                      It ain't necessarily so
                      ."

                      Sportin' Life
                      Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                        It could be an interesting exchange. To quote Woody Allen "I hope he has a good excuse".
                        I'm sure it will be the source of much mirth.

                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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