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  • #16
    Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
    I assume you mean in ordering the execution of his mentally disabled brother, but I'm not sure what that has to do with coffee.
    He made drinking coffee a capital offense and was known for traveling the streets of Istanbul in disguise with a massive sword (supposedly weighed 100 lbs.) decapitating anyone he caught drinking the swill. FWIU, his successor was more lenient, only giving the death penalty for a second offense.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Juvenal View Post

      Which I was looking to read, but can't because the site was hacked on Tuesday by racists.



      Racists hacking their site is the "whatever" that caused them to take down their page.

      Unless you're suggesting Nick had this article on the hook since March, it's a sure bet it was promoted this week to right-fringe racist whack jobs who responded by hacking the site and sending racists messages to their mailing list. The fact he's using an image of a tweet that brings slavery into the picture rather than the actual article, or even the actual tweet, also argues he's getting this from a right-fringe feed.

      I'm near certain you're misreading the title of the article, which is a riff off the 1988 film, "The Unbearable Lightness of Being," using the sociological term Whiteness — relating to White-centrism — in this case as it applies to coffee culture. Think Starbucks. The subtitle suggests the article is promoting black-owned coffee shops that also promote black culture.

      But that's just what I'm reading out of the subtitle. I'd have a better idea what it was about if I could read the article, but I can't, because they were hacked by racists.

      I've got plenty of other criticisms of the o/p, starting with the gob-smacking idea that slaves didn't have a problem with slavery. But who knows, maybe the remainder of the article I can't read would make that a minor criticism.
      wow you have gotten paranoid. Nicks's blog post was regarding the image he included in the post, and he took it from there, he was not even discussing the article, but just the topic of slavery. The article itself was written in march and Nick came across a mention of it recently (I assume) and decided to blog about it. When you tried to find the article, you ended up at the notice the site had been hacked by racists and apparently assumed that the article itself was a fake article posted by those racists. But in fact the entire site is down, not just the link to that article. And the article was a real article they posted back in March.

      I also mentioned some problems with what Nick said about slavery (the egyptians).

      You can find excerpt from the original article here:
      https://coffeetalk.com/daily-dose/fr...03-2022/91995/
      https://www.amren.com/news/2022/04/t...ess-of-coffee/

      It took me 10 seconds to find using google.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
        wow you have gotten paranoid. Nicks's blog post was regarding the image he included in the post, and he took it from there, he was not even discussing the article, but just the topic of slavery. The article itself was written in march and Nick came across a mention of it recently (I assume) and decided to blog about it.
        Anytime you want to stop blasting off and embarrassing yourself, you've got a big that's okay by me waiting for you.

        The image of whackjobette's tweet links slavery to the article, via Arabia. There's nothing at all remarkable about her tweet itself, which begs the question of how Nick ran into it. I'm not even going to accuse him of following her feed. Cause that really would be a nasty inference. He picked it up from elsewhere.

        I guarantee it wasn't being promoted by mainstream media. It's no stretch at all to assume he ran into a promotion of a right-wing whack on a ring-wing whack site. With right-wing commentary attached.

        When you tried to find the article, you ended up at the notice the site had been hacked by racists and apparently assumed that the article itself was a fake article posted by those racists.
        Yes, I tried to find it. I googled the title of the article. I got hits. So obviously, I assumed it was a fake article? Wipe up your drool before you slip on it again.

        But in fact the entire site is down, not just the link to that article. And the article was a real article they posted back in March.
        Posted in its entirety by rogue06, above. It took me less than a minute yesterday to follow the splash page link to their twitter account and find why they'd taken down the site and who they've hired to remediate the hack.

        I also mentioned some problems with what Nick said about slavery (the egyptians).
        I dunno, but it's gotta be said: Nick's Deeper Waters are anything but. He's set himself a task of blogging daily or near-daily, sacrificing quality for quantity, ending up with poorly considered, un-researched, shallow takes. He didn't even look for the original tweet, leaving him looking like he's promoting her.

        Eww.

        You can find excerpt from the original article here:
        https://coffeetalk.com/daily-dose/fr...03-2022/91995/
        https://www.amren.com/news/2022/04/t...ess-of-coffee/

        It took me 10 seconds to find using google.
        Ten seconds better spent reading the article in full without even leaving the thread.

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