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  • KingsGambit
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    I am really reluctant to emphasize the connection between sexual agency and pregnancy in a pro-life context because that implicitly puts us on the defensive in the case of rape.

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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by Apologiaphoenix View Post
    Go ahead. We're fine with your plans.

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    Will the move of Lysistrata work? Let's plunge into the Deeper Waters and find out.

    There is a Greek play called Lysistrata where the women get sick of the men fighting in wars all the time so they decide to hit them where it hurts. No. I'm not talking about a well-placed kick, but a much harder hit to the body part in reference. They agree to have a sex strike. Now the women are unsure of this idea at first as they don't want to give it up, but that is what they do. It does get the attention of the men and I leave you to read it to see how it turns out.

    And in the world today, that idea is seeming to be popular.

    Women are now saying that they will have a sex strike until "Women's rights" are restored. Not only that, they are including a number of radical ideas.

    These include ideas such as being extremely selective about who you have sex with as that person could be the father of your baby. This means practicing abstinence. (That idea that we were told will never work.) This means also not participating in the hook-up culture. This will get men all around the world to champion women's rights to abortion.

    To which many of us pro-lifers to this Lysistrata strategy of something to say.

    Your terms are acceptable.

    Seriously. For many of us, this is what we've been telling women all our lives. Take responsibility for your lives and your bodies. You're demonstrating to us that abortion has made it easy for men to use you. (And you're also showing us that all along, abortion has been a form of birth control.) If there are serious consequences to illicit sexual encounters, then strangely enough, people might become more responsible with sex and make wiser choices about who they sleep with.

    This might sound strange, but maybe sexual joy could be found in not treating sex as if it was a casual activity.

    Now I suppose someone could come along to me and say "Okay. Are you willing to avoid sex too?"

    Yeah. Been doing that since I got divorced. Plan to do that until I marry again.

    Women have said that sex is practically the holy grail for men. Well you know what? If you make it harder for men to receive that prize, you know who it will eventually go to? It will go to the men who prove themselves worthy. It will go to the men who show that they can provide for you and any children that they have with you.

    Maybe also you will find a guy who doesn't want you for just sex, but wants you for you and has decided that he only wants you. Maybe you will find a guy who isn't saturated with porn and will treasure every time he gets to see your body. Maybe you will find that real joy doesn't come from casual hook-ups, but it comes from being in a commitment with someone who really loves you and isn't interested in using you and doesn't have to make the consequences go away if you get pregnant.

    Abortion is not enabling to women. It's disabling. It allows women to be used by men who don't want to take responsibility.

    You see, the ideas in this sex strike, they are actually what many of us have told you all along. We have told you to take sex seriously, take your bodies seriously, and take yourselves seriously. We have told you abortion is not your ally. Pregnancy is not a weakness for you. It is what sets you apart. A woman should not want to be equal to a man in every way. She should want to be a woman because being a woman is something unique for her and what sets her apart.

    Not only that, but with the transgender movement, women forgot that if they think that they are equal to men automatically, well, that means men are equal to women. This is why we have transgenders winning at women's sports easily and then using the women's facilities and locker rooms. Women have not been the victors here but have been the victims. Feminism has not uplifted women but torn them down. Men and women are different, but neither one is superior.

    Women. Please take your sex strike. Go super far and declare that you won't have sex until the man commits to you and provides for you and shows he can provide for a family. If you think sex with you is a holy grail, treat it like that. You'll find who the real men are. They are the ones willing to do the work because they consider the woman a prize worth fighting for and working for. They will be the ones who are self-sacrificial.

    Here's to Lysistrata!

    In Christ,
    Nick Peters
    (And I affirm the virgin birth)

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  • Apologiaphoenix
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    To Lysistrata: Your Terms Are Acceptable

    Go ahead. We're fine with your plans.

    -------------

    Will the move of Lysistrata work? Let's plunge into the Deeper Waters and find out.

    There is a Greek play called Lysistrata where the women get sick of the men fighting in wars all the time so they decide to hit them where it hurts. No. I'm not talking about a well-placed kick, but a much harder hit to the body part in reference. They agree to have a sex strike. Now the women are unsure of this idea at first as they don't want to give it up, but that is what they do. It does get the attention of the men and I leave you to read it to see how it turns out.

    And in the world today, that idea is seeming to be popular.

    Women are now saying that they will have a sex strike until "Women's rights" are restored. Not only that, they are including a number of radical ideas.

    These include ideas such as being extremely selective about who you have sex with as that person could be the father of your baby. This means practicing abstinence. (That idea that we were told will never work.) This means also not participating in the hook-up culture. This will get men all around the world to champion women's rights to abortion.

    To which many of us pro-lifers to this Lysistrata strategy of something to say.

    Your terms are acceptable.

    Seriously. For many of us, this is what we've been telling women all our lives. Take responsibility for your lives and your bodies. You're demonstrating to us that abortion has made it easy for men to use you. (And you're also showing us that all along, abortion has been a form of birth control.) If there are serious consequences to illicit sexual encounters, then strangely enough, people might become more responsible with sex and make wiser choices about who they sleep with.

    This might sound strange, but maybe sexual joy could be found in not treating sex as if it was a casual activity.

    Now I suppose someone could come along to me and say "Okay. Are you willing to avoid sex too?"

    Yeah. Been doing that since I got divorced. Plan to do that until I marry again.

    Women have said that sex is practically the holy grail for men. Well you know what? If you make it harder for men to receive that prize, you know who it will eventually go to? It will go to the men who prove themselves worthy. It will go to the men who show that they can provide for you and any children that they have with you.

    Maybe also you will find a guy who doesn't want you for just sex, but wants you for you and has decided that he only wants you. Maybe you will find a guy who isn't saturated with porn and will treasure every time he gets to see your body. Maybe you will find that real joy doesn't come from casual hook-ups, but it comes from being in a commitment with someone who really loves you and isn't interested in using you and doesn't have to make the consequences go away if you get pregnant.

    Abortion is not enabling to women. It's disabling. It allows women to be used by men who don't want to take responsibility.

    You see, the ideas in this sex strike, they are actually what many of us have told you all along. We have told you to take sex seriously, take your bodies seriously, and take yourselves seriously. We have told you abortion is not your ally. Pregnancy is not a weakness for you. It is what sets you apart. A woman should not want to be equal to a man in every way. She should want to be a woman because being a woman is something unique for her and what sets her apart.

    Not only that, but with the transgender movement, women forgot that if they think that they are equal to men automatically, well, that means men are equal to women. This is why we have transgenders winning at women's sports easily and then using the women's facilities and locker rooms. Women have not been the victors here but have been the victims. Feminism has not uplifted women but torn them down. Men and women are different, but neither one is superior.

    Women. Please take your sex strike. Go super far and declare that you won't have sex until the man commits to you and provides for you and shows he can provide for a family. If you think sex with you is a holy grail, treat it like that. You'll find who the real men are. They are the ones willing to do the work because they consider the woman a prize worth fighting for and working for. They will be the ones who are self-sacrificial.

    Here's to Lysistrata!

    In Christ,
    Nick Peters
    (And I affirm the virgin birth)
    Will the move of Lysistrata work? Let’s plunge into the Deeper Waters and find out. There is a Greek play called Lysistrata where the women get sick of the men fighting in wars all the time so they decide to hit them where it hurts. No. I’m not talking about a well-placed kick, but a … Continue reading To Lysistrata: Your Terms Are Acceptable

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