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  • The Sadness of Christ

    Wasn't Jesus a man of sorrows?

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    Why was Christ sad? Let’s plunge into the Deeper Waters and find out.

    There have been some snafus with the blog lately. I hope that’s worked out. I do have a new laptop now and I tried to make YouTube videos of the blog for that, which apparently also had some problems. I was going to work on that some today, but really, things are extremely rough right now.

    I don’t want to go into everything going on, but let’s just say that yesterday, I had the perfect storm of depression and anxiety come based on so many situations. Much of it I still want to keep private, but I can assure you it’s real. It has been so real I called to have an emergency session with my therapist and I am trying to reach out to other friends who I know can do some counseling.

    So yesterday, I started wondering about the sadness of Christ. Go on Amazon and you can find plenty of books of Christ offering hope to those suffering. Wonderful. You can hear about Christ speaking to your sadness. Excellent. You can hear a lot about the promises of Christ and what He went through for your joy. Great.

    And right now, I don’t really care about it.

    Right now, I want to know about Christ Himself. What about His sadness? For some of us, it seems shocking to talk about such things, yet at the same time so many refer to Isaiah 53 as a prophecy of Christ that describes Him as a man of sorrows and familiar with suffering.

    Yes. That’s what it says.

    Jesus is not referred to as a man of joy. He is referred to as a man of sorrows. He is not described in ways that glorify Him. He is someone despised and rejected. There was no reason to desire Him. Nothing. Let us not color it over so much saying it was Jesus that we miss something.

    This is in many ways a very depressing chapter.

    Consider the hymn “Great is Thy Faithfulness.” How many of us have sung that at church? What a wonderful encouragement! What a blessing it is to us! How good it is to know God is faithful! That passage is in the Bible? It must surely be in a book of joy. It’s a Psalm of praise. Right?

    Think again. It’s Lamentations. The entire book of the Bible that is just that, a lament.

    So if you hold that Isaiah 53 is Jesus, this is really Jesus. When I talk about wanting Christ, I want to know just what He will do for me when I have sadness. I want to know what He did for Himself. I want to know why He was sad. I want to know His experience.

    The number one place is in Matthew 26 when Jesus is in the garden praying and fortunately, I found one book on the topic by Thomas More that is over 500 years old called the Sadness of Christ and it is looking at the Passion. Jesus tells His friends that He is overwhelmed with sorrow to the point of death. Jesus turns to His friends.

    Let’s get rid of some bad theology with this.

    Some people will tell you that if you have God and you know His love, you should always have joy and happiness. If you are depressed then, there is something wrong with you. You need to repent.

    I defy you if you are a Christian to find one human being you think has better theology than Jesus.

    Was there something wrong with Jesus that He was sad? Did Jesus have a deficient theology? Did Jesus just need to repent and find joy in the Lord?

    If your theology contradicts Jesus, your theology is wrong.

    Jesus was sad. We could say it was because of the sins of the world and the pain of the people around Him, but could we consider something else? Maybe, Jesus just didn’t want to go to the cross. Hebrews tells us that He went despising the shame of the cross for the joy set before Him. He knew this was the path to the greatest joy so He went for it.

    He went to the cross because He wanted to save the world and bring glory to God. He didn’t want the cross for the sake of the cross. He would have preferred another way.

    Yet Jesus was sad.

    If that’s the case, then we can dispense with this idea that if you have God in your life, you should always have joy and living abundantly. Dare I say it, sometimes you should be sad. If you have a loved one who dies on you and you are not sad, you are not exhibiting great strength. You are being actually deficient as a human being.

    1 Thessalonians is a passage I am discussing in eschatology right now, but while we disagree with many Christians on the eschatology, let’s speak about one thing we should agree on. The text says we mourn. Paul never says “Cheer up guys! No need to mourn! These people will rise again! Celebrate!” No. He says with mourn. In Romans, he even tells us to mourn with those who mourn.

    Paul says he had no rest at one point until he found his brother Titus. He talks about how thankful he was to have someone come to him so he could have less anxiety in Philippians, the very book where he tells us to be anxious for nothing. It could be Paul was also preaching to himself there. How many of us know what it is like to give advice some one and yet struggle to follow that same advice ourselves?

    But to get back to Jesus, Jesus definitely did have sadness. When we talk about the incarnation, we understand He was hungry and He slept and was thirsty and could experience pain and even die, yet talking about sadness seems taboo. Jesus as a human being had emotions and surely those emotions always had to be joy.

    No. Not a bit. He experienced the full gamut of emotions. When my soul is also overwhelmed with sorrow to the point of death, in some ways, I am in good company. Jesus’s was too.

    What did Jesus do? He needed what we need then. He needed His friends. He didn’t just turn to God. He turned to others. I am thankful I have God to turn to, to be sure, but there are ways that another human being can connect with you that God can’t always. This evening I am planning on visiting a friend to have a gaming night. Sorry, but God isn’t going to sit on a couch with me playing Smash Brothers or something.

    Sometimes, you need a touch too. Now Jesus could appear and do that, but it’s not likely. I am not a touchy person, but sometimes, it is nice to have.

    In all of this, I am not saying prayer and good music and Bible study and similar things have no place in this. They are good. I also say good music because sometimes it’s not just Christian music you need. When I heard Nabeel Qureshi had died, I was one of the first. Mike Licona was there when it happened and his wife called and told me and said not to tell anyone. I was in a Wal-Mart shopping at the time and having to put on a brave face even though inside, I was falling apart. What did I listen to driving then?

    World of Ruin from Final Fantasy VI.

    Sometimes in my own pain nowadays, I find myeslf listening to A Place To Call Home from Final Fantasy IX. Different music will resonate with different people. Some will find themselves listening to the classical composers. Some might want rock and roll or even heavy metal. If it is not sinful and it helps you get through it, go for it.

    But I don’t want to overwhelm you. For now, I just want us to think about the sadness of Jesus. We have a Lord who was sad and had to deal with it. We do nor honor Jesus when we turn Him into a superhuman who never had sorrow and sadness in His life. That should be a comfort too. If our Lord had it, we should not count ourselves exempt from it.

    In Christ,
    Nick Peters
    (And I affirm the virgin birth)

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    STM that the appropriateness of using Isaiah 53 as a source for a psychological profile of Jesus is highly dubious. I don’t think NT use of it goes that far. To say that the verses about the afflicted Servant of JHWH provide a means of making sense of the Crucifixion is one thing, but to say that the human author was intending to refer to Jesus, is to go a lot further - further, ISTM, than exegesis either of the chapter or of the NT passages that allude to it would allow.

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    • #3
      Jesus serms extremely stressed in the garden for good reason.
      If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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      • #4
        Depression, as I always heard it preached, is a failure of our faith. Not necessarily so, because Christ as as the sinless Son of God also became depressed.

        Once I read the Matthew 26:37 verse in the Interlinear, the artificial pressure for a Christian to never become depressed was taken away. It reads, "And having taken with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, he began to be sorrowful and DEEPLY DEPRESSED."

        If Christ the sinless Son of God experienced deep depression, then that should show us that this emotion has no sin baggage attached to it when we are subjected to it. Jesus has been in that same trench as us during His life on earth.

        One more example of Christ becoming weighed down by the pressures of His ministry is when the disciples brought the young boy to Christ when they could not cast the demon out of him. Christ let down His guard and showed us how the burden of His ministry was wearing on Him when He said, "...O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me." (Matt. 17:17). In that one sentence, I can feel the strain Christ was under at that time, knowing very well that any miracles performed for that generation would just provide another reason for the envious Pharisees to want to put Him to death in the near future. Yet he healed the young boy anyway, as a true fulfillment of the One who would "bear our griefs and carry our sorrows".

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Rushing Jaws View Post
          STM that the appropriateness of using Isaiah 53 as a source for a psychological profile of Jesus is highly dubious. I don’t think NT use of it goes that far. To say that the verses about the afflicted Servant of JHWH provide a means of making sense of the Crucifixion is one thing, but to say that the human author was intending to refer to Jesus, is to go a lot further - further, ISTM, than exegesis either of the chapter or of the NT passages that allude to it would allow.
          I actually agree, but if it is seen that way by most Christians, then they need to accept what that means for them.

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          • #6
            Don't some people accidentally act like docetists and forget that Jesus did have a limbic system? Would Jesus have dealt with cognitive biases?
            If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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