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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostYou and your conspiracy theories are amusing to me.
It's remarkable that you have to exaggerate the differences while completely misrepresenting what I said. My whole point is that the US has a history of arming guerillas that turn against us when we have outlived our usefulness to them.
It's called understanding war, which you obviously can't do from that ivory tower you spend all day in.
What present enemy are we arming and why?
Whether there are historical similarities or not is not the point of the thread, so your point is irrelevant to the thread. Just because it happened in the past doesn't matter because it doesn't justify it happening now. It wasn't excusable then and it isn't excusable now. So attempting to point out where it happened before is moot.
What present enemy are we arming and why?
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostHe might be referring to things like these.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-defe...rocket-caches/
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014...ming-rep-says/
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What present enemy are we arming and why?
http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-defe...rocket-caches/
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014...ming-rep-says/
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Originally posted by seanD View PostNo, you're justifying it because you're a paid government toady.
It's remarkable that you're argument is that history is the same as our present situation,
but I understand why you can't deal with the situation happening now... it's called cognitive dissonance, and I'm sure it's extremely uncomfortable for you.
Not only does history not justify what's happening now, as I said before, but they aren't even similar situations. Arming and assisting a PRESENT enemy is treason.
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post]
And that's why I know it isn't even vaguely similar.
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostSeems to me that there is still a difference. Those groups didn't have a demonstrated intention to kill Americans (and anyone else they disagree with) off before they were given assistance.
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Seems to me that there is still a difference. Those groups didn't have a demonstrated intention to kill Americans (and anyone else they disagree with) off before they were given assistance.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostHow about you link me to a source or at least cite some source for this. The burden is on you to do this, and show me where tens of thousands of innocent Christians were being slaughtered or displaced as a result.
I'm sure you know how Ho Chi Minh turned out...
Excellent documentary exposing Ho Chi Minh for the genocidal communist he was. Especially from the 5th part of the playlist and onward, interesting details around Ho Chi Minh´s role in the killing of Vietnamese patriots and Christians and collaboration with the French colonial power to this end in the 50s. The documentary also sheds light on the brutal land reforms and public execution of specific percentages of the villagers as "class enemies".
The nightmare of the Tet massacres and the massive persecution of Christians and patriotic separatists is also highlighted, although only in passing.
In the meantime, it's STILL not the same. First of all, it seems you're implying that our current situation is somehow justified just because of something that happened in history... it's not.
Secondly, these US created, funded and armed groups didn't attack us on our own soil (just a little more than a decade ago in fact!)
which contributed to some of the most grossly unconstitutional policies we're seeing today (and continue to see) in the name of protecting us from these groups.
We're arming and funding a present enemy concurrently with policies being passed to "protect" us from said enemy.
Nothing in history is relative to that insanity. From what I understand, this is the definition of treason.
Being a paid toady of the government, I'm sure you're cognizant of this offence.
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At least he knows how to spell offense.
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostWhy don't you look up the Office of Strategic Services and the anti-Japanese guerillas from China, Burma, Korea, and Vietnam they trained during WW2, and then realize that they were some of the same groups we ended up fighting in Korea and Vietnam.Last edited by seanD; 08-02-2014, 10:42 PM.
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