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  • #16
    Originally posted by tabibito View Post
    Seems to me that there is still a difference. Those groups didn't have a demonstrated intention to kill Americans (and anyone else they disagree with) off before they were given assistance.
    They did demonstrate the intention to kill their enemies. They were called "The Men in Black", and Ho played the US and Britain like a mandolin.
    That's what
    - She

    Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
    - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

    I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
    Stephen R. Donaldson

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
      ]


      And that's why I know it isn't even vaguely similar.
      No, you're justifying it because you're a paid government toady. It's remarkable that you're argument is that history is the same as our present situation, but I understand why you can't deal with the situation happening now... it's called cognitive dissonance, and I'm sure it's extremely uncomfortable for you. Not only does history not justify what's happening now, as I said before, but they aren't even similar situations. Arming and assisting a PRESENT enemy is treason.
      "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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      • #18
        Originally posted by seanD View Post
        No, you're justifying it because you're a paid government toady.
        You and your conspiracy theories are amusing to me.

        It's remarkable that you're argument is that history is the same as our present situation,
        It's remarkable that you have to exaggerate the differences while completely misrepresenting what I said. My whole point is that the US has a history of arming guerillas that turn against us when we have outlived our usefulness to them.

        but I understand why you can't deal with the situation happening now... it's called cognitive dissonance, and I'm sure it's extremely uncomfortable for you.
        It's called understanding war, which you obviously can't do from that ivory tower you spend all day in.

        Not only does history not justify what's happening now, as I said before, but they aren't even similar situations. Arming and assisting a PRESENT enemy is treason.
        What present enemy are we arming and why?
        That's what
        - She

        Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
        - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

        I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
        Stephen R. Donaldson

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        • #19
          What present enemy are we arming and why?
          He might be referring to things like these.

          http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-defe...rocket-caches/

          http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014...ming-rep-says/
          sigpic1 Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω

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          • #20
            Originally posted by tabibito View Post
            Those are not instances of the US arming Hamas. The US money is earmarked for humanitarian and refugee purposes. Sean made a claim that the US was committing treason by arming our enemies. I'd like to see him support that claim with some hard evidence.
            That's what
            - She

            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
            Stephen R. Donaldson

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
              You and your conspiracy theories are amusing to me.



              It's remarkable that you have to exaggerate the differences while completely misrepresenting what I said. My whole point is that the US has a history of arming guerillas that turn against us when we have outlived our usefulness to them.



              It's called understanding war, which you obviously can't do from that ivory tower you spend all day in.



              What present enemy are we arming and why?
              Cognitive dissonance is not a conspiracy theory lol. It's a psychological way of dealing with a conflict. You work for government (and from what I understand, military aspects of government), so it's a psychological conflict for you to criticize or find fault in the fact that government is assisting, funding and arming the very same enemy that orchestrated 911. It's also known as bias. Bias is not a conspiracy theory, stupid.

              Whether there are historical similarities or not is not the point of the thread, so your point is irrelevant to the thread. Just because it happened in the past doesn't matter because it doesn't justify it happening now. It wasn't excusable then and it isn't excusable now. So attempting to point out where it happened before is moot.

              What present enemy are we arming and why?
              It has been thoroughly covered in the OP.
              "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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              • #22
                Originally posted by seanD View Post
                It's also known as bias. Bias is not a conspiracy theory, stupid.
                You mean like starting a thread and purposely misspelling America in the Title?
                "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  You mean like starting a thread and purposely misspelling America in the Title?
                  And your point is what?
                  "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by seanD View Post
                    And your point is what?
                    You're biased. The pot calling the kettle black. The dog who ate his homew.... um.... you're biased!
                    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      You're biased. The pot calling the kettle black. The dog who ate his homew.... um.... you're biased!
                      It’s a political statement about the present shape America is in. It's not the same thing as having blind loyalty and/or bias in favor of American military policy because I’m employed by its government. It’s not even in the same ballpark.
                      "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by seanD View Post
                        It’s a political statement about the present shape America is in. It's not the same thing as having blind loyalty and/or bias in favor of American military policy because I’m employed by its government. It’s not even in the same ballpark.
                        Is so -- you're a pinko commie liberal and it shows in your titling! (Do you REALLY think anybody takes your crap seriously, Sean?)
                        "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          You mean like starting a thread and purposely misspelling America in the Title?
                          Depends on which part of the (non English speaking) world you're in.
                          sigpic1 Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            Is so -- you're a pinko commie liberal and it shows in your titling! (Do you REALLY think anybody takes your crap seriously, Sean?)
                            Apparently you do because you keep responding

                            I backed up why I believe America is in that shape with much documented information in the OP. I don't think you would disagree that America is presently in bad shape in regards to its current international relations and dealings (in fact, I remember you started a thread with similar subject matter). So, if I have bias, it's justified with facts.
                            "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by tabibito View Post
                              Depends on which part of the (non English speaking) world you're in.
                              "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by seanD View Post
                                Apparently you do because you keep responding
                                It's a glaring fault of mine -- I also responded to Mickiel.
                                "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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