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Noah: Is this a good movie? Is it good ancient history?

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  • robrecht
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    The movie does not directly contradict the Bible but in a few minimal matters, but adds a lot (a lot a lot) of themes from elsewhere in the Bible, from a modern and postmodern interpretive perspectives, and, yes, from the Book of Enoch, as I noted earlier. If you like such reinterpretations, you may indeed like this movie. I went back and read the Hebrew text after seeing this movie and had to admit that what some are seeing as extreme license would actually be perfectly acceptable from a Jewish midrashic perspective. (Warning: Christian fundamentalists and modernists do not generally appreciate a Jewish midrashic perspective on the Bible.). I will not yet speak about the rock monsters. ;)

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  • seanD
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    And they were supposedly the good guys.

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  • Teallaura
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    *Spoiler Alert*
































































    Seriously, there are rock monsters in 1 Enoch?

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  • KingsGambit
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    Originally posted by seanD View Post
    Didn't see the movie yet, but if they were going to deviate from the bible so much (based on the reviews I've heard), it would have been cool to follow a premise similar to the book of Enoch. Would have made for a pretty cool action fantasy: supernatural beings assigned to watch over the human race by the Supreme One that created the universe, violate their protocol, genetically modify the human race to produce superhuman hybrids that are ruthless and who design a plan to enslave mankind for their own pleasure. Supreme One then floods the earth to wipe out the hybrids and the genetic lines they corrupted. Now that's a 21st century plotline!

    On another note, I just recently saw Man of Steel and that was outstanding. Surprised, being how sucky movies have become of late.
    One Bible scholar I'm friends with on Facebook posted something to the effect of "don't bring your Bible to follow along, but brush up on 1 Enoch". I don't know to what extent it was followed though.

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  • KingsGambit
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    Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
    What interests me is the contrast in the Christian responses to this movie. I've really only seen two responses from the Christian camp: Beck's response, and robrecht's response. There hasn't seemed to be much middle ground, and it's fascinating to me how split the opinions on it are.
    Well, if we want to be pedantic, Beck is a Mormon.

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  • seanD
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    Didn't see the movie yet, but if they were going to deviate from the bible so much (based on the reviews I've heard), it would have been cool to follow a premise similar to the book of Enoch. Would have made for a pretty cool action fantasy: supernatural beings assigned to watch over the human race by the Supreme One that created the universe, violate their protocol, genetically modify the human race to produce superhuman hybrids that are ruthless and who design a plan to enslave mankind for their own pleasure. Supreme One then floods the earth to wipe out the hybrids and the genetic lines they corrupted. Now that's a 21st century plotline!

    On another note, I just recently saw Man of Steel and that was outstanding. Surprised, being how sucky movies have become of late.

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  • Zymologist
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    Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
    Yep. This is what I have been saying. Requiem for a Dream is about as far from a Christian film as it gets. I'm not sure why anybody is surprised here.
    What interests me is the contrast in the Christian responses to this movie. I've really only seen two responses from the Christian camp: Beck's response, and robrecht's response. There hasn't seemed to be much middle ground, and it's fascinating to me how split the opinions on it are.

    But I've read enough to recharge my skepticism of this movie, and I don't know if I'll be seeing it or not. (I see very few movies in the theater anyway, so this one won't be getting any special avoidance treatment or anything. I just don't usually care enough to actually spend money to see the things.)

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  • KingsGambit
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    Originally posted by OingoBoingo View Post
    Its directed by Darren Aronofsky so its no surprise that its not a Biblical film per se. Anyone who's seen any of his work should know what they're getting into (Pi, Requiem for a Dream, The Fountain, The Wrestler, Black Swan). He makes controversial art films for mainstream audiences.
    Yep. This is what I have been saying. Requiem for a Dream is about as far from a Christian film as it gets. I'm not sure why anybody is surprised here.

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  • OingoBoingo
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    The musician? (clicks on link) Oh. That Beck. :)

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  • Teallaura
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    Not planning to see it. Beck said he and his friends were laughing through parts of it (they were invited to a screening so he could review the movie - not an auspicious start) and he didn't recommend it.

    Spoiler alert: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014...nsaw-massacre/

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  • Zymologist
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    Originally posted by QuantaFille View Post
    I tried so hard to wrap my head around The Fountain. I gave up. I didn't know it was him behind it. That explains a lot.
    The Fountain is a great example of an apparently convoluted mess from which critics try to glean some brilliant and profound insights, expending enormous efforts in the process, where I'm pretty sure it was...just a convoluted mess.

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  • OingoBoingo
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    Originally posted by QuantaFille View Post
    I tried so hard to wrap my head around The Fountain. I gave up. I didn't know it was him behind it. That explains a lot.
    Its the film of his I liked least, but its been a long time since I've seen it. I should give it another chance.

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  • QuantaFille
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    Originally posted by OingoBoingo View Post
    Its directed by Darren Aronofsky so its no surprise that its not a Biblical film per se. Anyone who's seen any of his work should know what they're getting into (Pi, Requiem for a Dream, The Fountain, The Wrestler, Black Swan). He makes controversial art films for mainstream audiences.
    I tried so hard to wrap my head around The Fountain. I gave up. I didn't know it was him behind it. That explains a lot.

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  • OingoBoingo
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    Its directed by Darren Aronofsky so its no surprise that its not a Biblical film per se. Anyone who's seen any of his work should know what they're getting into (Pi, Requiem for a Dream, The Fountain, The Wrestler, Black Swan). He makes controversial art films for mainstream audiences.

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  • Darth Executor
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    http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/20...t-biblical-bi/

    Note to Christians and those who believe the Bible: The producer of the movie “Noah,” a self-professed atheist, says he is proud of the fact that he’s taken a story inspired by God’s word and turned it into something so secular.
    Director Darren Aronofsky called his movie “the least biblical biblical film ever made,” The Telegraph reported. He also claimed his leading character, Noah, was the “first environmentalist,” something that suggests the movie storyline doesn’t exactly follow the Bible’s.
    Looks like the article I posted earlier was spot on. Don't put money in his pocket please.

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