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Believe it or not, this is the exact place where Luther first posted the 94 thesis. We convinced him to add one.
This is the forum where the Church and its actions in history can be discussed. Since CH201, like the other fora in the History department, is not limited to participation along lines of theology, all may post here. This means that anything like Ecclesiology can be discussed without the restrictions of the Ecclesiology forum, and without the atmosphere of Ecclesiology 201 or the Apologetics-specific forum.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Argument form Incredulity? A logical fallacy.
Likewise all those other pathogens, parasites etc which afflict various living creatures including human beings. Why did this benign, omniscient, and omnipotent creator being wish to inflict all that misery and suffering on innocent creatures in the first place?
We come straight back to Epicurus.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
No it is a statement that belies a belief that a beneficent creator supreme being can deliberately create a creature that inflicts suffering [being eaten alive] on another of its creations.
Likewise all those other pathogens, parasites etc which afflict various living creatures including human beings. Why did this benign, omniscient, and omnipotent creator being wish to inflict all that misery and suffering on innocent creatures in the first place?
We come straight back to Epicurus.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
It is a logical fallacy.
The question I put cannot be adequately addressed. If the supreme creator being is omniscient, omnipotent and benevolent why does it create/permit suffering and misery?
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostNo it is not.
The question I put cannot be adequately addressed. If the supreme creator being is omniscient, omnipotent and benevolent why does it create/permit suffering and misery?
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
And another "cop out".
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Then stop copping out and read Genesis. Once you can repeat back to me what we Christians actually believe about God and Creation, then I will be happy to discuss it with you. Your idea of God and creation are completely wrong, therefore your conclusions is also wrong. How can you expect to prove the Christian God as impossible if you don't even understand what we believe about God?"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostAm I to understand from the above that you do not believe that your creator supreme being is omnipotent, omniscient, or benevolent?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
You are, not surprisingly, demonstrating profound ignorance of who God is.
Do you envisage your deity as akin to the neighbour who lends you his lawn-mower when yours requires maintenance? Or that you invite round for drinks during a summer's afternoon?"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
My emphasis.
Do you envisage your deity as akin to the neighbour who lends you his lawn-mower when yours requires maintenance? Or that you invite round for drinks during a summer's afternoon?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostAm I to understand from the above that you do not believe that your creator supreme being is omnipotent, omniscient, or benevolent?
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostThis is the only board I could identify that was vaguely relevant for this topic.
I have just had a chat to a friend in UK who told me about a documentary that went out a few nights ago on British television about this organisation. I have watched the trailer here; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KKKJweWP_8.
However, I wonder if anyone who posts here knows anything about [or is involved with] this organisation.
I found one or two Christian sites that seemed rather hostile to its programme and also found the IFCJ's Financial Summary online https://www.ifcj.org/who-we-are/financial-summary/ but was intrigued by its request for money to feed the hungry where the site states: https://help.ifcj.org/donate/16/53
You can help provide ongoing care and basic necessities like food, medical assistance, and shelter for a Jewish person in dire need.
Your monthly gift is tax deductible and will provide a critically important, ongoing source of care and support for the neediest of God's people in Israel, and around the world — including innocent children, impoverished families, and elderly Holocaust survivors.
The inclusion of Israel in that statement suggests that the Israeli Welfare system so ineffectual it cannot feed and provide medical treatment for its citizens.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
It appears that this thread was not at all about a civil discussion on IFCJ, but a dishonest attempt to battle with Christians."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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