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Well I sent the message and it showed she saw it, but no response (been about an hour) so either I scared her off or she is thinking.
But I do feel better about sending it. It's been bothering me for a few days now. That Holy Spirit fellow can really be a pain sometimes.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWell I sent the message and it showed she saw it, but no response (been about an hour) so either I scared her off or she is thinking.
But I do feel better about sending it. It's been bothering me for a few days now. That Holy Spirit fellow can really be a pain sometimes.
You are hereby released, and it's all up to the Holy Spirit! Doesn't that feel great?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
You are hereby released, and it's all up to the Holy Spirit! Doesn't that feel great?
I told her my story of an alcoholic father and how I became a Christian at 40. She also asked "what about people who never heard about Jesus, what happens to them" and I told her about Romans 2 and how God will judge them by their conscience and that since we are all sinners that means that if they have done what they know is wrong then they will be judged on that. She is also against "fire and brimstone" idea of hell. I told her that I think Hell is more of a place that God set up to give people who want nothing to do with him exactly what they want: a place without God, like CS Lewis said, a place where the doors are locked from the inside. But that I think that is a very scary place I want nothing to do with, not for me or for her. That I want her to be able to see her brother again.
That's where it stands now.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Not so fast. she responded and said basically she was raised as a baptist but had horrible parents and a terrible childhood. She was baptized at 12 and was 'forced to go to church' - and she prayed to Jesus to help her but he didn't. So very bitter about Christianity.
I told her my story of an alcoholic father and how I became a Christian at 40. She also asked "what about people who never heard about Jesus, what happens to them" and I told her about Romans 2 and how God will judge them by their conscience and that since we are all sinners that means that if they have done what they know is wrong then they will be judged on that. She is also against "fire and brimstone" idea of hell. I told her that I think Hell is more of a place that God set up to give people who want nothing to do with him exactly what they want: a place without God, like CS Lewis said, a place where the doors are locked from the inside. But that I think that is a very scary place I want nothing to do with, not for me or for her. That I want her to be able to see her brother again.
That's where it stands now.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Not so fast. she responded and said basically she was raised as a baptist but had horrible parents and a terrible childhood. She was baptized at 12 and was 'forced to go to church' - and she prayed to Jesus to help her but he didn't. So very bitter about Christianity.
I told her my story of an alcoholic father and how I became a Christian at 40. She also asked "what about people who never heard about Jesus, what happens to them" and I told her about Romans 2 and how God will judge them by their conscience and that since we are all sinners that means that if they have done what they know is wrong then they will be judged on that. She is also against "fire and brimstone" idea of hell. I told her that I think Hell is more of a place that God set up to give people who want nothing to do with him exactly what they want: a place without God, like CS Lewis said, a place where the doors are locked from the inside. But that I think that is a very scary place I want nothing to do with, not for me or for her. That I want her to be able to see her brother again.
That's where it stands now.Watch your links! http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/fa...corumetiquette
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Not so fast. she responded and said basically she was raised as a baptist but had horrible parents and a terrible childhood. She was baptized at 12 and was 'forced to go to church' - and she prayed to Jesus to help her but he didn't. So very bitter about Christianity.
I told her my story of an alcoholic father and how I became a Christian at 40. She also asked "what about people who never heard about Jesus, what happens to them" and I told her about Romans 2 and how God will judge them by their conscience and that since we are all sinners that means that if they have done what they know is wrong then they will be judged on that. She is also against "fire and brimstone" idea of hell. I told her that I think Hell is more of a place that God set up to give people who want nothing to do with him exactly what they want: a place without God, like CS Lewis said, a place where the doors are locked from the inside. But that I think that is a very scary place I want nothing to do with, not for me or for her. That I want her to be able to see her brother again.
That's where it stands now.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
She replied:
"I appreciate your concerns, but I do not want to discuss religion or my brother any further. Thank you for your heartfelt words and concerns."
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
She replied:
"I appreciate your concerns, but I do not want to discuss religion or my brother any further. Thank you for your heartfelt words and concerns."
You "blew the trumpet" and she chose to dismiss it.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
I believe this applies...
You "blew the trumpet" and she chose to dismiss it.
She did say she was baptized when she was 12, but didn't mention if she actually meant it or did it because her parents 'forced her to'. So she might just be a 'lost sheep' and needs to be led back.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
I will continue to keep her in my prayers. And who knows? Maybe what we discussed will weigh on her mind or come to her again one day and she will choose to accept Jesus.
She did say she was baptized when she was 12, but didn't mention if she actually meant it or did it because her parents 'forced her to'. So she might just be a 'lost sheep' and needs to be led back.
My Pastor/mentor told me "you did your job". When you preach (or witness) you are sounding the trumpet, and what they do with it is up to them.
That's why I like the motto we use at our Church .... "Share Jesus in the Power of the Holy Spirit and leave the results to God".The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
I used to be bothered when I knew there was somebody "in the house" when I was preaching, and I was pretty sure they were unsaved, but when "invitation time" came, they didn't respond.
My Pastor/mentor told me "you did your job". When you preach (or witness) you are sounding the trumpet, and what they do with it is up to them.
That's why I like the motto we use at our Church .... "Share Jesus in the Power of the Holy Spirit and leave the results to God".
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